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Old 22nd Aug 2008, 16:02
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Show me the MONEY!!!

Global Vectra is a publicly listed company and their financials are readily available, even in the net.

Read them and make your own risk assessment!
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Pawan Hans to buy 16 choppers by fiscal-end
Press Trust Of India / New Delhi September 16, 2008, 12:12 IST

State-owned Pawan Hans Helicopters Limited (PHHL), which has issued global tenders to buy 16 helicopters, plans to complete the acquisition process before the end of current financial year.

"We will decide on the bids by the end of this month or early next month. We plan to close the process before this fiscal," PHHL CMD R K Tyagi told PTI in an interview here.

The tenders were issued by the company last month for acquisition of two heavy-lift choppers with a capacity of 20 or more passengers, seven copters with a passenger capacity of 11 to 13, two with 11 to 15 passenger capacity, two more with the same capacity but twin-engined and three air-conditioned single-engined copters to carry five-six passengers.

To a question on shortage of pilots, the PHHL chief said the public sector firm had signed a MoU with the Indian Air Force for induction of retired pilots. "We have already inducted 37 retired pilots from the IAF and the Army's air wing. This process will continue."

Observing that PHHL had started retrofitting its own helicopters and maintaining those of some state governments, Tyagi said the time-line for repairs and retrofit have been substantially reduced by indigenous efforts.

In this context, he said the PHHL had sent a helicopter to Europe for major works and it took nine months to get it back. The second chopper took six months. "Now we have brought it down ourselves to 45 days," he said.

Asked about PHHL's preparations for upcoming elections when political parties hire choppers for campaigning, Tyagi said, "We will have four to five helicopters dedicated for this purpose. We carry elite customers, mostly VVIPs."

Elections are a major revenue earning season for all helicopter companies.
Shortshaft, what about PHHL?

I got a call about a job in India two weeks ago but I wasn't interested so I didn't ask the company name.

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An Iron Rice Bowl

Aser,

PHHL is 78.5% Govt owned and 21.5% by ONGC a public sector Indian petroleum company.

They have been around 23 years. They have a lot of good equipment and are getting some more. They donít have to worry about being commercial and with their parentage will always have a contract. Working for them is regarded by many as an Ďiron rice bowlí, as long as you donít step out of line.
They employ a lot of retired senior air force officers (pilots and management) and so are quite hierarchical. I donít know whether foreign pilots get equal opportunity to get a command, but I somehow I doubt it.

If you hate bureaucracy then it is probably not for you.
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Old 30th Oct 2008, 17:09
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Does anybody know who's hiring in India for helicopter piltots?? I have about 20yrs experience in Bell 412's, SK76, Bell 407, EC135....etc. Looking for something like 6weeks on 6 weeks off.

Also looking for what peoples experiences have been like there doing the job.
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Indian flying

Ifly,

Check your PMs for a response.

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Word on the street is that Global Vectra are about to get their third CEO in less than 2 years, so it seems that all is not happy there still. If the new one is the Dutch guy that I hear it's going to be, he'll soon have a lot of people upset, the same as he did in his last 2 jobs, so they'll probably be looking for pilots again soon
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Global Vectra is not hiring ex-pats at the moment. And some of the others want an ATP, which I'm not going to get....so,
Does anybody know who's hiring in India for helicopter piltots?? I have about 20yrs experience in Bell 412's, SK76, Bell 407, EC135....etc. Looking for something like 6weeks on 6 weeks off. Forgot to mention I'm Commercial, instrument rated in Rotorcraft, valid passport, and class 2 medical.

Also looking for what peoples experiences have been like there doing the job.
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Global Vectra does 6on-3off.
All the other jobs are permanent positions, meaning year round with 30 days vacation per year.

Flying is basically charter and corporate only. Straight and Level flight, 400 to 600 hours per year.
Entry level payment is about USD 5500 after tax.
No health insurance, that's your own business.
1 to 2 economy class tickets home, depending on marital status and company.
Need 100 hours on type.
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Who have you worked for?? What was your experience like?
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Helicopter boom India 2010?

Helicopter boom India 2010? How true it is?

Professional working in Indian Helicopter industry, kindly give your insights and guide me what should I opt to do that best suits industry in India.

Does basic CPL Helicopter would be enough or do I also require Instrument rating?

Many thanks

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CPL and 500 TT is good enough, although 1000 is better...
100 hours on type is a must.
Types most flown are Bell 407, followed by 206L4 and 350B3.

When it comes to twins it is the 109.

This is day vfr only. Straight and Level. No Airwork in India, although I did a bit of filming.
India is not yet up to speed concerning GA, especially helicopters.

No rosters, it's all year round fulltime with 30 days off per year.


Offshore we are talking 412, with pref. 200 hours on type and offshore experience.
Global Vectra does, as stated above, 6on/3off.
AW 139 is coming into the market.

Operators are looking forward to the 2010 Commonwealth Games. Ha.
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Mmmmm ...

As per "Good Grief" above .... the Instrument Rating is a must for unrestricted operations in India .... particularly if you have any visions of getting into the "twin" or "Offshore" market.

India seems to have a sort of "left over" British system of doing things ... those who have been through the UK training grind will get comfortable very quickly. Lower airspace ie <F100 (depending on where you operating) not much Radar ... lots of gaps ... be very "up to speed" with your radio work! you will need to have good English language skill.

The biggest advice to getting on in India is to "just accept it" .... the way it is, is the way it is ... YOU will NOT change anything so just smile and stay happy!

There are however some very professional people there (as well as a lot of "oxygen thieves") ... so don't think you will go there and "Know it all".

East Coast of India .... likely to resemble "Gulf of Mexico" in a few short years!!!

You may well grow to Love the place ... if you go there do so with an "Open Mind" .... and ENJOY.


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Pawan Hans Helicopter India..comments

Hi...I'm look'n at an application for flight crew from Pawan Hans in India and was wondering if anyone has any comments on the company and their reputation.
They charge to process the application and the contract seems a bit "over the top"
Any opinions on the company and their standards.
Thnx
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 18:57
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Govt. run operation. Managed almost exclusively by ex military types and crewed by the same crowd. A bit of an old boys club. But being govt. run the econmic pressures are a lot less,IMHO. You could do a lot worse in this global economic scene.
Just my 2c.
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Old 22nd Jul 2009, 01:47
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I wasn't aware they actually employed any expat pilots? Unless things have changed?
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 08:43
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Expats highly unlikely.
Read the part "Naval Pilots for Pawan Hans" here
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Well, that says it all. They won't be hiring any expats.
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 21:05
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Ferrying to India

I'm brand new here-

We're looking at options of how to get an MD900 from EU to DEL. One crazy idea was to fly it. I know that's nuts/lethal in this day and age, but has anyone heard of doing this? Or, on the other end of the plausibility spectrum, anyone that ferries this route for a living?

Just to establish a little credibility after the question above, we're also getting bids on the usual method, air cargo.

Thanks
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Of course it is doable! A member of this forum flew from Norway to Vietnam across India not so long ago.

Save the quotation for air cargo for the return trip when it is decided that the 900 is not for India, crash it and 'phase it out'. It has happened before!

Good luck!!
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PHHL does have expat Pilots, yes GVHL is hiring but only if you have 1,500+ hours Rotory, 100 PIC on AS350 type & 100 hours slinging. Instrument rating is NOT required at all as 99% on-shore work is all done dayVFR, it gets you your Special VFR rating a bit faster, hence a take off approval outside of VFR minima & pay increase for same. Aerial work is rapidly growing especial power-line stuff. As for industry boom; yep, it sure is booming, heaps of new machines coming into the country especially R44's(scary) & AS350's which will soon overtake B407's. Should have seen the pilgrimage flying this year to Amarnat, Kedarnath & Hemkunt wow, yes booming, at Phata 4 - 5 machines doing 5 hours each per day, so yes industry is buoyant.....Happy landings
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