Police/HEMS line pilot vacancy

[SilsoeSid]

I'm surprised at the low numbers TC.

As my earlier post, perhaps something is amiss, as I know of one person who sent in the CV etc right at the start and despite now being past the closing date, still no application forms!

Were these application forms actually applicable for this post, or will the interview invitations be going out based on CV, photo, letter information?

SS

'beth ewyllysia bod, ewyllysia bod'.

[ShyTorque]

I would apply myself, but not at the pay rates. Market forces prevail and one eventually gets what one pays for.

That sounds arrogant, it's really not meant to be . IMHO, Police pilots in UK have been undervalued for years, especially taking into account the qualifications / experience required.

[Helinut]

I was also interested but have taken a stand on the salary issue too, and not applied. I have also decided not to apply for one or two other police jobs on the same basis. Just one person's view but perhaps repeated?

Because it is of interest to me, I have been enquiring about the going rate. It seems to vary quite a lot. I was also told that one of the major contracting organisations was paying £39K for police line pilots. Another smaller one is paying £45K, while yet another (probably soon to be an ex police contractor) is paying various rates covering that range and more.

[Thomas coupling]

Silsoe Sid: If you know of anyone who has applied for an application pack but not received one, get them to e-mail me on here ASAP and I will guarantee to review their CV. As you said the applications are few in number and if someone out there is qualified and has missed out, I'd love to know about it please?

Many thanks,

TC.

Helinut, you should invest while the market is low...it can only go one way

[SilsoeSid]

Having re-re-read the thread, I am very surprised and in wonder that with TC earlier saying ;

I can assure you, that this 'package' for an entry level police line pilot, will escalate past the 50K mark very very quickly. That, in my opinion, is satisfactory remuneration for the post.

Why were there only 6 applicants?

[Thomas coupling]

Let me put it in perspective Silsoe:
We have had 6 applicants. A neighbouring police unit has had less success. The Welshpool Air Ambulance is finding difficulty supplying anyone to work there full time and so too is the Caernarfon Air Ambulance.
A police force down south can't find pilots and even one of the biggest service providers who advertised at the same time as us, is finding difficulty filling their vacancies.
I can only assume that the market has reached rock bottom and most pilots have been scooped up. It can only auger well for salaries methinks?
I remember a thread about 3 yrs ago discussing our (pro pilots) position on the salary ladder. Where exactly do we come in comparison to say doctors/accountants/tanker drivers/train drivers etc?

And why have my number of posts stopped going up?

[SilsoeSid]

Police Force down South?

How south?


As for the post numbers, the totals are updated on all your posts as you post new posts, so your previous post will have the same number of posts as your next post.

[Whirlygig]

I can't speak for doctors etc but a Chartered Accountant in North Wales would be typically earning between 35k and 70k. This is a qualification that requires a degree and at least 3 years subsequent training to an academic level higher than ATPL!

Cheers

Whirls

PS Thomas, your post count looks fine unless you post on Jet Blast and then they do not count!

[Thomas coupling]

During my deliberations whilst defining the direct pilot contract, the police asked me to quantify the ATPL qualification. I was officially told by Bristol University (eventually) that an ATPL was equivalent to a two yr credit for a science degree. So that would fit in nicely with whirly's statement, no?

[airborne_artist]

TC - I guess the number of applications received is a) a reflection of the terms offered for this post compared to the market and b) shows that the number of RW pilots leaving the military is now shrinking fast.

[SilsoeSid]

Unfortunately the OU doesn't recognise this apparent equivalency!
Here is a reply from an e-mail enquiry I sent them.

As I understand it, the CAA does not meet the higher education quality assurance standards necessary for us to assess
their qualifications for credit toward our degree programmes. As we are monitored by the Quality Assurance Agency
ourselves, we need to show absolute evidence that any professional courses we award credit for meet their criteria, and
in this case we are unable to do this.
I trust I have answered your question, however if you would like any further guidance please do not hesitate to contact
this office.
Yours sincerely,
Kila Miller
Credit Transfer Adviser

You can however get a few points from more recent Military flying courses;

http://www3.open.ac.uk/credit-transf...nal/index.shtm

[paco]

I was officially told by Bristol University (eventually) that an ATPL was equivalent to a two yr credit for a science degre


Fixed Wing or Helicopter? The FW one has a higher standard. I get the OU's points about consistency, though.

Phil

[griffothefog]

police job

I think all you guys are getting a little bit anal about this job application... This thread has been running for weeks and I suspect most of the comments have been made by under qualified people. If you have what they want, then apply and negotiate your terms privately or get off the bus

[Whirlygig]

One of the differences between Direct Employed police pilots and those working contracted operator is that direct employed come under rules similar to all public sector employees i.e. very, very little room for negotiation!

Cheers

Whirls

[soggyboxers]

I never even got an acknowledgement or a reply either. Just because I'm over 60 and legally prohibited from flying single-pilot on operations such as this, doesn't mean that I'm completely gaga and incapable . I manage to fly 6 days a week in an environment considerably more hostile than North Wales, but that of sourse counts for nothing any more. Oh well, another few red infuriators too many in the short (remaining) slide to the grave

[Thomas coupling]

Soggyboxers, I did respond to your PM, that's if you are the gentleman with 11000+ hrs and working in Nigeria??
You answered your own question. How could we possibly take you on (even though your quals are outstanding) if you can't fly for us legally?

Time to close this thread now I think eh?

[Whirlygig]

Originally Posted by Thomas dahling

Time to close this thread now I think eh?

Just as I was girding my loins for a full-blowm macro-economic treatise on employment markets and supply and demand, you want to close the thread? Deprive a girl of her fun eh?

Cheers

Whirls

[SASless]

Dear Whirls,

Is girding one's loins similar to putting on yer Kevlar Y-fronts?

[Heliport]

Closed

Closed at TC's request (as thread originator) as the deadline for applications is now passed.