R 22 Blades
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R 22 Blades Delamination
Im new too spreading the word,
but have you guys heard of the latest R22 blade delamination yesterday in the Cairns area
but have you guys heard of the latest R22 blade delamination yesterday in the Cairns area
Last edited by justinga; 16th March 2007 at 14:22.
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R22 Blades
@ mareeba yesterday with a well known CFI instructor doing a flight test.
blades had 500 odd hours,pilot was in auto at 200ft,big vibration,pulled power and recovered to put it down with no harm to man or futher damage to machine. End result.....15inches of blade peeled back and now on there way to the states
blades had 500 odd hours,pilot was in auto at 200ft,big vibration,pulled power and recovered to put it down with no harm to man or futher damage to machine. End result.....15inches of blade peeled back and now on there way to the states
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Can only assume that you refer to one very respected, very experienced CFI / Instructor gentleman from that area.
I guess his phone will be running hot tomorrow.
Be very interesting to check out the machine history / ownership before too many assumptions are made.
I guess his phone will be running hot tomorrow.
Be very interesting to check out the machine history / ownership before too many assumptions are made.
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Yes we are talking about "that man". Dont think that the focus should be on him,i think (but dont know) that he is over that.
I have thrown the subject up more for general knowledge for pilot saftey.
I have thrown the subject up more for general knowledge for pilot saftey.
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So how long before RHC completely redesign their blades?
Seems to be just too many of these type of occurances of late and I for one will always feel a little nervous when I fly one of these machines here and there. Eek!!!
Seems to be just too many of these type of occurances of late and I for one will always feel a little nervous when I fly one of these machines here and there. Eek!!!
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Thanks RW,
Thats the angle, big questions need to be asked of RHC.....what do they intend to do.
I just have an intrest in human life and believe that RHC, despite there best intention to design a cheap heli, have done just that.
Might be handy to know too that Aus officialdom dont seem too intrested at this stage
Thats the angle, big questions need to be asked of RHC.....what do they intend to do.
I just have an intrest in human life and believe that RHC, despite there best intention to design a cheap heli, have done just that.
Might be handy to know too that Aus officialdom dont seem too intrested at this stage
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Here we go - generalising from the particular:
How many R22s been built ? 4000+ ?
How many blade delaminations ?
How many blade delaminations in Australia ?
Keep it real.
See here
I just have an intrest in human life and believe that RHC, despite there best intention to design a cheap heli, have done just that.
How many blade delaminations ?
How many blade delaminations in Australia ?
Keep it real.
See here
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Am I correct in thinking that Mr Robinson had some special sets of blades made for aircraft supplied for the 2000 Sydney Olympics?
I guess it must be the pilots fault after all. Buy cheap buy twice i say
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AB139Eng.
I understand your scepticism but as previously mentioned by TET, the CFI on board at the time is very experienced and very respected. He didn't get the experience or the respect by doing things poorly. This incident happened on a check ride so the CFI would have been all eyes & check-lists.
It is possible that something was missed during the daily/preflight, but given the professionalism of the CFI and the circumstances of the flight I think it is highly unlikely. Also, the machine had just come out of maintenance so the engineers would have had to miss the signs as well. With so many people (CFI, Student and Engineers) looking, it would be unusual for "nobody" to see anything.
My info is that the aircraft had -4 blades fitted.....significant????
ss
I understand your scepticism but as previously mentioned by TET, the CFI on board at the time is very experienced and very respected. He didn't get the experience or the respect by doing things poorly. This incident happened on a check ride so the CFI would have been all eyes & check-lists.
It is possible that something was missed during the daily/preflight, but given the professionalism of the CFI and the circumstances of the flight I think it is highly unlikely. Also, the machine had just come out of maintenance so the engineers would have had to miss the signs as well. With so many people (CFI, Student and Engineers) looking, it would be unusual for "nobody" to see anything.
My info is that the aircraft had -4 blades fitted.....significant????
ss
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It's all about who pays for lunch.
On this occurrence, we have yet to see any photographs, or hear of any prior incidents, or indeed who even owned and operated the A/C
it would be unusual for "nobody" to see anything.
tet
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Nick (I am new here) Hi, I was kinda hungry for info. and so i hear u are a Knowledgeable man. I was looking at the R44 pictured above, and was wondering , Whats wrong with the tail Blade ?
Hope you have time to Help me solve this one.
Thanks in advance
Hope you have time to Help me solve this one.
Thanks in advance
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BG, it's an effect of the camera. On some cams, the shutter slides across, the opening thus showing the blade at a different location on different parts of the "film" (or digital image).
Unless that was sarcasm, which was wasted upon myself.
Unless that was sarcasm, which was wasted upon myself.
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my apologies to the CFI, it is so frustrating hearing such stories in the field, as rotary engineer with 30 years of experience ( I once maintained the worlds highest time Beta with 16,000 hours TT) it troubles me to read about this kind of stuff going undetected, perhaps its time to call for a repetative non destructive test for delamination / debonding on these blades.