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Old 12th Feb 2007, 16:15
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There seem to be two kinds of IFR pilots in the world: the ones that think nothing of SPIFR if properly trained and qualified in a properly equipped helicopter and the ones that cannot conceive of SPIFR and will pull out any excuse to dismiss the concept.

Meanwhile manufacturers don't build an IFR medium without certifying it for SPIFR.

Spinwing you're drawing on an inside straight. All kinds of things would have to go wrong at the same time, including coincident weather, for the Single pilot to work up a sweat. The standby HSI/ADI should have a Nav input anyway.

All the 139's I've seen have two screens on each side, with an miniature EFIS standby in the middle.

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Old 13th Feb 2007, 08:05
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Spinwing.....the SPIFR model 139 has 4 screens...the original 3 screen setup was never accepted by EASA for SPIFR. Agusta had to upgrade to 4 screens and update the FMC software for the 4th axis. That is, an EASA requirement for SPIFR was that the 139 has 4 screens (redundancy) and a 4 axis coupled AP through the FMS.....

Hey there a few very ordinary SPIFR machines in this country....eg. the SA365C (which was never approved by the manufacturer or any regulatory body on the planet other than CASA who approved it for SPIFR even though it is in breach of its own regulations with a 3 inch AI, 2 axis AP single channel and no coupling...go figure???)

So I don't think there should be any problem approving the 139 with more redundancies built in than you can poke a stick at!
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Old 13th Feb 2007, 15:46
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Flight manual currently does not allow for SPIFR. SPVFR only...
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Old 13th Feb 2007, 19:19
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C4, there is an EASA approved FM supplement to operate SPIFR in europe (you need the quick reference handbook etc...)
Another difference was two pilots for vfr ops by FAA at the beginning (I had the yellow FAA page).

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