Night VFR
Night VFR
Just checking the ANO which states that:
"In the United Kingdom an aircraft flying at night:
(a) outside a control zone shall be flown in accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules; or
(b) in a control zone shall be flown in accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules unless it is flying on a special VFR flight."
This doesn't seem to leave much room for night VFR in uncontrolled airspace.
Some owners night equip their aircraft (notably R44s) and do indeed fly VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night. What am I overlooking in the regs?
Any enlightenment much appreciated.
thanks
TT
"In the United Kingdom an aircraft flying at night:
(a) outside a control zone shall be flown in accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules; or
(b) in a control zone shall be flown in accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules unless it is flying on a special VFR flight."
This doesn't seem to leave much room for night VFR in uncontrolled airspace.
Some owners night equip their aircraft (notably R44s) and do indeed fly VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night. What am I overlooking in the regs?
Any enlightenment much appreciated.
thanks
TT
If you read what you wrote, you may just see what is required.
ie "In accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules".
You might just want to let it sink in and visit the regs where it tells what Instrument Flight Rules are.
It doesn't neccesarily mean flying IMC or even holding an IR. Why do so many people think flying IFR means in IMC?
ie "In accordance with the Instrument Flight Rules".
You might just want to let it sink in and visit the regs where it tells what Instrument Flight Rules are.
It doesn't neccesarily mean flying IMC or even holding an IR. Why do so many people think flying IFR means in IMC?
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This doesn't seem to leave much room for night VFR in uncontrolled airspace.
Some owners night equip their aircraft (notably R44s) and do indeed fly VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night. What am I overlooking in the regs?
Some owners night equip their aircraft (notably R44s) and do indeed fly VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night. What am I overlooking in the regs?
Thanks Helimutt
The "light" is beginning to dawn on me. Clear enough that IFR does not mean IMC and that most IFR flight is in VMC. Did wonder about any requirement to hold an IR in order to fly under IFR. Have not come across any requirement in print yet.
So no such thing as VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night in the UK, fly under IFR then...
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TT
The "light" is beginning to dawn on me. Clear enough that IFR does not mean IMC and that most IFR flight is in VMC. Did wonder about any requirement to hold an IR in order to fly under IFR. Have not come across any requirement in print yet.
So no such thing as VFR in uncontrolled airspace at night in the UK, fly under IFR then...
alles klar
TT
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TT,
Under the UK ANO, pilots flying at not more than 3,000 ft are deemed to be complying with IFR provided they remain clear of cloud and in sight of the surface.
Alternatively, fly at least 1,000 ft above the nearest obstacle within 5 nm if you are able to fly IMC and choose that option.
Remember that the usual low flying rules still work at night....
In addition, fly quadrantals above 3,000 ft amsl (or above the transition level if higher).
N.B. The police may fly under PAOC "Visual Contact Flight" rules at night.
Under the UK ANO, pilots flying at not more than 3,000 ft are deemed to be complying with IFR provided they remain clear of cloud and in sight of the surface.
Alternatively, fly at least 1,000 ft above the nearest obstacle within 5 nm if you are able to fly IMC and choose that option.
Remember that the usual low flying rules still work at night....
In addition, fly quadrantals above 3,000 ft amsl (or above the transition level if higher).
N.B. The police may fly under PAOC "Visual Contact Flight" rules at night.
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No it's not mentioned in the ANO. Haven't you read it?
It's only in the PAOM, I think.
No it's not mentioned in the ANO. Haven't you read it?
It's only in the PAOM, I think.