Threat to UK airfields
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Threat to UK airfields
The future of UK airfields is threatened as a result of a Planning Policy Statement recently issued by the Department for Communities and Local Government.
The proposal was originally made by John Prescott’s ‘Office of the Deputy Prime Minister’ but, despite assurances that the threat to airfields was ‘an error’, a ‘slip of the pen’ etc which would be corrected in the final version, it has not been.
Please would you consider signing a Petition which calls upon the Prime Minister to consider the threat to airfields caused by the Planning Policy Statement.
Unless the Statement is amended, airfields will be increasingly vulnerable to property developers.
Link to electronic Petition: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Airfields
NB: There are 2 stages:
The entire process takes only 2 minutes.
The proposal was originally made by John Prescott’s ‘Office of the Deputy Prime Minister’ but, despite assurances that the threat to airfields was ‘an error’, a ‘slip of the pen’ etc which would be corrected in the final version, it has not been.
Please would you consider signing a Petition which calls upon the Prime Minister to consider the threat to airfields caused by the Planning Policy Statement.
Unless the Statement is amended, airfields will be increasingly vulnerable to property developers.
Link to electronic Petition: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Airfields
NB: There are 2 stages:
- Sign
- Confirm your signature when asked to do so by email
The entire process takes only 2 minutes.
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done also so easy just needs every one on the forum to do it
even ex pats can do it
by my reconing all usa citizens are ex pats too [sometime in the past ] so every one click on the link and do the business
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Airfields
even ex pats can do it
by my reconing all usa citizens are ex pats too [sometime in the past ] so every one click on the link and do the business
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Airfields
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FL I've signed up obviously, and originally I wrote to my MP (Rifkind) who extracted a reply from Milliband promising to "consider reinstating the airfield clause". Their line was very much that dropping the airfield clause was an issue of drafting rather than policy.
In the original text which we felt gave us some protection, both airfields and hospital sites were singled out as 'brownfield sites' that were nevertheless deserving of special protection. My question to you (since I can't find the text of either the original PPG3 or the new one) is did they keep the hospital exemption whilst dropping the airfield one, or did they drop both ?
Their claim that they have nothing against airfields would be much more suspect if they had kept the hospital example.
In the original text which we felt gave us some protection, both airfields and hospital sites were singled out as 'brownfield sites' that were nevertheless deserving of special protection. My question to you (since I can't find the text of either the original PPG3 or the new one) is did they keep the hospital exemption whilst dropping the airfield one, or did they drop both ?
Their claim that they have nothing against airfields would be much more suspect if they had kept the hospital example.
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My question to you (since I can't find the text of either the original PPG3 or the new one) is did they keep the hospital exemption whilst dropping the airfield one, or did they drop both ?
Their claim that they have nothing against airfields would be much more suspect if they had kept the hospital example.
Their claim that they have nothing against airfields would be much more suspect if they had kept the hospital example.
The old PPG3 said (on this page)
The curtilage is defined as the area of land attached to a building. All of the land within the curtilage of the site (as defined above) will also be defined as previously-developed.
However, this does not mean that the whole area of the curtilage should therefore be redeveloped. For example, where the footprint of a building only occupies a proportion of a site of which the remainder is open land (such as at an airfield or a hospital) the whole site should not normally be developed to the boundary of the curtilage. The local planning authority should make a judgement about site layout in this context, bearing in mind other planning considerations, such as policies for the protection of open space and playing fields or development in the countryside, how the site relates to the surrounding area, and requirements for on-site open space, buffer strips, landscaped areas, etc.
However, this does not mean that the whole area of the curtilage should therefore be redeveloped. For example, where the footprint of a building only occupies a proportion of a site of which the remainder is open land (such as at an airfield or a hospital) the whole site should not normally be developed to the boundary of the curtilage. The local planning authority should make a judgement about site layout in this context, bearing in mind other planning considerations, such as policies for the protection of open space and playing fields or development in the countryside, how the site relates to the surrounding area, and requirements for on-site open space, buffer strips, landscaped areas, etc.
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If I'm looking at the right things...
The final document is available here: Planning Policy Statement 3: Housing
I think the relevant part of this final version, which makes no mention of hospitals either, is this (from Annex B: Definitions):
The previous document is available here: Planning Policy Guidance 3: Housing (Cancelled) - Annex C: Definitions
(oops - looks like rotorcraig posted whilst I was still typing!)
The final document is available here: Planning Policy Statement 3: Housing
I think the relevant part of this final version, which makes no mention of hospitals either, is this (from Annex B: Definitions):
Previously-developed land (often referred to as brownfield land)
‘Previously-developed land is that which is or was occupied by a permanent structure, including the curtilage of the developed land and any associated fixed surface infrastructure.’
The definition includes defence buildings, but excludes:
‘Previously-developed land is that which is or was occupied by a permanent structure, including the curtilage of the developed land and any associated fixed surface infrastructure.’
The definition includes defence buildings, but excludes:
(oops - looks like rotorcraig posted whilst I was still typing!)
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Done. Some notable aviation names on the "recently appended" list, including Dickie Duckett, Graham Forbes and our very own John Eacott. Hope it has the right effect.
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I sent an open email to all kindred spirits in my address book (and some potential supporters) yesterday. Dickie Duckett was one.
It seems to have been effective - each time I've looked at the list since, some of the names have been there.
Others might want to do the same.
My email was as per the first post plus 'Please consider forwarding this message to kindred spirits and potential supporters in your address book.'
If anyone wants to copy it to save time - feel free.
Tudor
I sent an open email to all kindred spirits in my address book (and some potential supporters) yesterday. Dickie Duckett was one.
It seems to have been effective - each time I've looked at the list since, some of the names have been there.
Others might want to do the same.
My email was as per the first post plus 'Please consider forwarding this message to kindred spirits and potential supporters in your address book.'
If anyone wants to copy it to save time - feel free.
Tudor
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Thanks all.
The numbers are building well.
We're obviously neighbours - or at least live in the same borough.
Our MP has always struck me as a pompous sort, but let's hope he tries to help.
Tudor
The numbers are building well.
FL
I've signed up obviously, and originally I wrote to my MP (Rifkind) .......
I've signed up obviously, and originally I wrote to my MP (Rifkind) .......
Our MP has always struck me as a pompous sort, but let's hope he tries to help.
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Hello Neighbour !
Well, he may be pompous but he actually went to the trouble of writing to the ODPM last Feb at my request and extracted a reply from Milliband, and that's a lot more than Portillo ever did when I wrote to object to the war.
Cheers.
Well, he may be pompous but he actually went to the trouble of writing to the ODPM last Feb at my request and extracted a reply from Milliband, and that's a lot more than Portillo ever did when I wrote to object to the war.
Cheers.