Eastern Helicopters -Essex
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I hope their flying skills are better than those of their proof-reading. If I were offering an AUGUSTA, I would at least spell it correctly. Schoolboy error.
Incidentally, how do I fly in this 109E, being N registered?
And I think a couple of other operators might take issue with the "We have the largest fleet in the SE" quote.......
Eh, XD?!
Incidentally, how do I fly in this 109E, being N registered?
And I think a couple of other operators might take issue with the "We have the largest fleet in the SE" quote.......
Eh, XD?!
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I wouldn't wish to comment!
I haven't read the text on the Kudos site, however, I can think of one or two SE based operators with a larger fleet than..........................?
I'm not entirely sure what is being operated, or how, or by whom?
I haven't read the text on the Kudos site, however, I can think of one or two SE based operators with a larger fleet than..........................?
I'm not entirely sure what is being operated, or how, or by whom?
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Just looked at KUDOS website...Astonishingly bad!
AGUSTA (Augusta) MKII with the wrong engines !
Training courses still available under national rules that do not reflect the fact that JAR was implemented several years ago !
CAA class 3 medicals !
N reg aircraft available for training and charter !
I had never heard of this company until stumbling across this thread, is it coincidence that they quote years of experience but in the 'contact us' link
there are no names mentioned?
Why do customers need to know the aircraft had a previous registration?and 'homebuilt.. NO'
FFS
AGUSTA (Augusta) MKII with the wrong engines !
Training courses still available under national rules that do not reflect the fact that JAR was implemented several years ago !
CAA class 3 medicals !
N reg aircraft available for training and charter !
I had never heard of this company until stumbling across this thread, is it coincidence that they quote years of experience but in the 'contact us' link
there are no names mentioned?
Why do customers need to know the aircraft had a previous registration?and 'homebuilt.. NO'
FFS
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There seems to certainly be some sort of link between AV8 and Kudos. G-CRDY is shown on G-INFO as having AV8 decals on it, and is shown in the photos on the Kudos website.
Where is the link between Eastern and Kudos though??
I take that back, just typed into the address bar, after a fruitless search on google - www.easternhelicopters.co.uk, and it re-directs straight to the Kudos website. SPOOKY! ! ! ! !
Where is the link between Eastern and Kudos though??
I take that back, just typed into the address bar, after a fruitless search on google - www.easternhelicopters.co.uk, and it re-directs straight to the Kudos website. SPOOKY! ! ! ! !
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Kudos/AV8/anyone else
Maybe the years of experience they refer to are through their pilots??
Noticed the link straight through to Kudos website, handy they had the same webhost!
Noticed the link straight through to Kudos website, handy they had the same webhost!
Last edited by Blade22; 18th Jun 2007 at 14:17. Reason: addition
As somebody seems to think I know about this, I'll give it a go......
Kudos does not have an AOC and is apparently a brokerage company, based at Southend. As such, they would surely have access to a large fleet, including some of the aircraft already mentioned. They should, however, check the legality/courtesy of using photos of other owners' aircraft without permission. But perhaps they have done this and have permission.
An owner of G-WUSH is learning to fly his aircraft with Southend-based instructors and it is hangared at Kudos on this basis. The aircraft is otherwise leased to AV8, which does operate the type on AOC: based, as are all its AOC operations, at Rochester.
AV8 has a TRTO approval at Southend, and leases facilities from Kudos on an ad-hoc basis for this: last used for two Huey courses a few months ago.
No financial or other links between the two, AFAIK. There was, I understand, a tie-up planned between the two at one time, but interests appear to have diverged and the two companies are independent.
Kudos does not have an AOC and is apparently a brokerage company, based at Southend. As such, they would surely have access to a large fleet, including some of the aircraft already mentioned. They should, however, check the legality/courtesy of using photos of other owners' aircraft without permission. But perhaps they have done this and have permission.
An owner of G-WUSH is learning to fly his aircraft with Southend-based instructors and it is hangared at Kudos on this basis. The aircraft is otherwise leased to AV8, which does operate the type on AOC: based, as are all its AOC operations, at Rochester.
AV8 has a TRTO approval at Southend, and leases facilities from Kudos on an ad-hoc basis for this: last used for two Huey courses a few months ago.
No financial or other links between the two, AFAIK. There was, I understand, a tie-up planned between the two at one time, but interests appear to have diverged and the two companies are independent.
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Thanks for the reply Idle Stop! There was a suggestion that you would "have something to say about it" Poor old CC was under the right impression. I was expecting a different repsonse given the nature of the reply to his post.
However, I am still confused about some of the aircraft and the operation at Southend. If Kudos are a 'brokerage' company.... how do they 'lease' G-WUSH to AV8? Do AV8 operate G-WUSH? or do Kudos? The same question applies to the rest of the aircraft shown on the Kudos website. I think that Kudos employ their own crew.... I don't know of any 'brokerage' companies that employ pilots to fly aircraft that are leased to another AOC holder to operate flights on behalf of the originating 'brokerage' company...
Where is the AV8 TRTO? Rochester, I guess. Both companies do have a TRTO, right? So they can train from Rochester and from Southend?
Who is the Head of Training at Kudos?
Who is the Head of Training at AV8?
How is N517TS operated by a brokerage company?
It all seems very confusing!
So many questions!!
However, I am still confused about some of the aircraft and the operation at Southend. If Kudos are a 'brokerage' company.... how do they 'lease' G-WUSH to AV8? Do AV8 operate G-WUSH? or do Kudos? The same question applies to the rest of the aircraft shown on the Kudos website. I think that Kudos employ their own crew.... I don't know of any 'brokerage' companies that employ pilots to fly aircraft that are leased to another AOC holder to operate flights on behalf of the originating 'brokerage' company...
Where is the AV8 TRTO? Rochester, I guess. Both companies do have a TRTO, right? So they can train from Rochester and from Southend?
Who is the Head of Training at Kudos?
Who is the Head of Training at AV8?
How is N517TS operated by a brokerage company?
It all seems very confusing!
So many questions!!
Xavier:
I always choose my words carefully. What I wrote is correct; anything omitted is because I do not know the facts, so could not possibly comment.
Owners often lease aircraft to AOC companies. G-WUSH is an example, and I am aware that there is a lease agreement between the owning and operating companies, and subsidiary agreements to cover day-to-day management of maintenance by the lessee, to comply with EASA and Sub-Part M requirements for it's AOC.
AFAIK, Kudos does not have any TRTO, FTO approvals nor an AOC, so has neither a CP nor Head of Training. AV8 has an arrangement to use the Kudos real estate for some TRTO operations, as noted in my earlier post.
PM me if you want details of the Head of Training for AV8, or look at their website, which may help.
You are right to note that an N-reg aircraft cannot be used for AOC work. It does look sexy on a web-site, though!
I always choose my words carefully. What I wrote is correct; anything omitted is because I do not know the facts, so could not possibly comment.
Owners often lease aircraft to AOC companies. G-WUSH is an example, and I am aware that there is a lease agreement between the owning and operating companies, and subsidiary agreements to cover day-to-day management of maintenance by the lessee, to comply with EASA and Sub-Part M requirements for it's AOC.
AFAIK, Kudos does not have any TRTO, FTO approvals nor an AOC, so has neither a CP nor Head of Training. AV8 has an arrangement to use the Kudos real estate for some TRTO operations, as noted in my earlier post.
PM me if you want details of the Head of Training for AV8, or look at their website, which may help.
You are right to note that an N-reg aircraft cannot be used for AOC work. It does look sexy on a web-site, though!
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Answer to the Original Question
The original question regarding the legal status of Eastern Helicopters Limited is easily answered. Just use the link and do a "web check"
http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/
You can do this for any UK limited company and get the official legal status.
http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk/
You can do this for any UK limited company and get the official legal status.
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I'm still owed a considerable amount of my 10hour block booked lessons.
I have MH address and have called on many occasion, but, suprise suprise, he is not willing to communicate. PilotMike obviously has better luck than myself.
I have MH address and have called on many occasion, but, suprise suprise, he is not willing to communicate. PilotMike obviously has better luck than myself.
