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This must be the first helicopter simulator which has actually been delivered before an actual aircraft has been delivered to a customer.
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AW189 flight training device ready for training
...though in this instance more the result of planning than a 4+ year delay to EIS.
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...though in this instance more the result of planning than a 4+ year delay to EIS.
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Has the Sikorsky S-76D entered service?
Has the S-76D entered commercial or corporate service with any North American customer? Where is interior completion and customization work done? Coatesville, PA? Or another location?
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There are no D models in service anywhere.
Sikorsky has, for the last 40+ months, been battling to overcome troubles with the integration and performance of the Pratt & Whitney PW210S engines including some specific problems encountered at altitude (although Sikorksy themselves have not been in a hurry to publicise this). However, those working on the programme are well aware that this has been a major issue.
Not sure about the interiors. Some of the VIP configurations will be available from multiple vendors/locations while both VIP and utility/offshore interiors will also, as far as I know, be available ex-Coatesville.
Sikorsky has, for the last 40+ months, been battling to overcome troubles with the integration and performance of the Pratt & Whitney PW210S engines including some specific problems encountered at altitude (although Sikorksy themselves have not been in a hurry to publicise this). However, those working on the programme are well aware that this has been a major issue.
Not sure about the interiors. Some of the VIP configurations will be available from multiple vendors/locations while both VIP and utility/offshore interiors will also, as far as I know, be available ex-Coatesville.
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One month ago :
"The first customer delivery of the Sikorsky S-76D medium-twin helicopter is “imminent,” the Stratford, Conn.-based aircraft manufacturer said. According to a Sikorsky executive, the first example will be handed over this month to an offshore operator in the Gulf of Mexico"
First Sikorsky S-76D Delivery ?Imminent? | Aviation International News
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One month ago :
"The first customer delivery of the Sikorsky S-76D medium-twin helicopter is “imminent,” the Stratford, Conn.-based aircraft manufacturer said. According to a Sikorsky executive, the first example will be handed over this month to an offshore operator in the Gulf of Mexico"
First Sikorsky S-76D Delivery ?Imminent? | Aviation International News
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Better late than never !
First S76D delivered : First S-76D delivered ? to Bristow Helicopters | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source
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Better late than never !
First S76D delivered : First S-76D delivered ? to Bristow Helicopters | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source
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I like the bit where they are excited about a $700 million backlog of orders. If you pay $12 million per ship (rough estimate based on 76C++ pricing, averaged over different configurations) then that is ooooooo, about 59 aircraft.
That does not sound like a lot to me. Even with a base price of $10 mil, that is still only 70 machines on order.
Are there really only that many operators with orders in for the D??
That does not sound like a lot to me. Even with a base price of $10 mil, that is still only 70 machines on order.
Are there really only that many operators with orders in for the D??
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Backlog appears to be at least 62 aircraft, based on announced orders:
2 x Falcon Aviation Services (Nov 2009)
1 x Kuwait International Aircraft Leasing (Feb 2010)
11 x Saudi Ministry of Interior (Jul 2010)
1(?) x AAG (Oct 2011)
1 x Air Engiadina (Feb 2012)
2 x PT Travira Air (Mar 2013)
6 x ASESA (Mar 2013)
7 x Milestone Aviation Group (Mar 2013)
2 x Arkansas Children’s Hospital (Mar 2013)
2 x PT Travira Air (Mar 2013)
6(?) x Bristow (Mar 2013)
11 x Japan Coast Guard (via Mitsubishi) (Feb 2012 - March 2013)
8 x Chinese Ministry of Transport (Dec 2012 & Jul 2013)
2 x Macquarie Rotorcraft Leasing (Oct 2013)
The Bristow announcement totalled 26 orders and options; based on Sikorsky's claim of 29 announced orders for the type at Heli-Expo 2013, of which 23 others were detailed in press releases, this suggests six orders and 20 options (assuming no additional S-76D customers placed orders at the show).
Other options announced include Milestone (10), Saudi MOI (8) and FAS (2).
The AAG 'order' from its parent is speculative (could also be higher).
Given the 76's popularity with executive flight departments, there are also likely to have been non-publicized orders placed from corporate (e.g. Teterboro based) operators. A Florida company did sign a deposit for two executive aircraft for 2009 delivery back in 2006, though as with the original '70 orders' still claimed for the AW609 13 years later, it's questionable as to whether the customer has been willing to wait...
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2 x Falcon Aviation Services (Nov 2009)
1 x Kuwait International Aircraft Leasing (Feb 2010)
11 x Saudi Ministry of Interior (Jul 2010)
1(?) x AAG (Oct 2011)
1 x Air Engiadina (Feb 2012)
2 x PT Travira Air (Mar 2013)
6 x ASESA (Mar 2013)
7 x Milestone Aviation Group (Mar 2013)
2 x Arkansas Children’s Hospital (Mar 2013)
2 x PT Travira Air (Mar 2013)
6(?) x Bristow (Mar 2013)
11 x Japan Coast Guard (via Mitsubishi) (Feb 2012 - March 2013)
8 x Chinese Ministry of Transport (Dec 2012 & Jul 2013)
2 x Macquarie Rotorcraft Leasing (Oct 2013)
The Bristow announcement totalled 26 orders and options; based on Sikorsky's claim of 29 announced orders for the type at Heli-Expo 2013, of which 23 others were detailed in press releases, this suggests six orders and 20 options (assuming no additional S-76D customers placed orders at the show).
Other options announced include Milestone (10), Saudi MOI (8) and FAS (2).
The AAG 'order' from its parent is speculative (could also be higher).
Given the 76's popularity with executive flight departments, there are also likely to have been non-publicized orders placed from corporate (e.g. Teterboro based) operators. A Florida company did sign a deposit for two executive aircraft for 2009 delivery back in 2006, though as with the original '70 orders' still claimed for the AW609 13 years later, it's questionable as to whether the customer has been willing to wait...
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Wow, so I wasn't that far off with my guessing.
I doubt there is anyone still waiting for an AW609, except maybe a couple of billionaires who just want the first of everything. I hear a third prototype is supposed to be joining the flight testing soon (whatever soon means).
Yes, I agree that the 76D will find a loyal following in the executive flight department. Must be about time for Mr Trump to upgrade?
I doubt there is anyone still waiting for an AW609, except maybe a couple of billionaires who just want the first of everything. I hear a third prototype is supposed to be joining the flight testing soon (whatever soon means).
Yes, I agree that the 76D will find a loyal following in the executive flight department. Must be about time for Mr Trump to upgrade?
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Originally Posted by noooby
Must be about time for Mr Trump to upgrade?
Originally Posted by noooby
I hear a third prototype is supposed to be joining the flight testing soon (whatever soon means).
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Maybe not Noob, the S-76D is heavy and in cooler climates carries less payload than the S-76C++.
In reality, it doesn't carry much more than an AW169, it isn't certified to the same standards as the AW169 and it will probably cost $4m more. Bristow got a massive bargain basement deal to give the D some traction in the oil market when everyone else, even loyal Sikorsky customers have said, no thanks.
In reality, it doesn't carry much more than an AW169, it isn't certified to the same standards as the AW169 and it will probably cost $4m more. Bristow got a massive bargain basement deal to give the D some traction in the oil market when everyone else, even loyal Sikorsky customers have said, no thanks.
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Not many contracts (excepting in the the USA GOM maybe) where there are any A++ working these days. Part of the Bristow D purchase was to trade all of their old A+ and A++ for which there was no work available. That was the sweetener.
