Huey saga set to land in court
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Enjoy your semi - retirment Francois 
I will come and "help" you make wine in December bru .. (I am an old tester and conoseur of good wine (ask the PPRUNE party goers)
Long live the HUEY in whichever form / whoevever own her.
Myself and Guns Jnr had a few rides with Francois I will never forget and thanks for that FM
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I will come and "help" you make wine in December bru .. (I am an old tester and conoseur of good wine (ask the PPRUNE party goers)
Long live the HUEY in whichever form / whoevever own her.
Myself and Guns Jnr had a few rides with Francois I will never forget and thanks for that FM
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Good GRIEF
Seems to me I'm COMPLETELY out of the loop!!! Where did Francois go to? Saw him a couple of weeks ago and he didn't say anything about leaving the Huey.....
Seems to me I'm COMPLETELY out of the loop!!! Where did Francois go to? Saw him a couple of weeks ago and he didn't say anything about leaving the Huey.....
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Yebo Gunnzz, Bert & the boyz!
Got a mail from François yesterday. He is on vacation in the Galapagos Islands, happy as a pig in Palestine.
Hey François, if you're reading pprune over there, have a great time bud, and we'll see you when you get back. How´s your lovely senorita enjoying the Iguanas, toirtoises and bird life?
Seeya!
Got a mail from François yesterday. He is on vacation in the Galapagos Islands, happy as a pig in Palestine.
Hey François, if you're reading pprune over there, have a great time bud, and we'll see you when you get back. How´s your lovely senorita enjoying the Iguanas, toirtoises and bird life?
Seeya!
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The Huey has not been flying for a while, and following an investigation, it turns out that Gary van der Merwe experienced a catastrophic engine failure some time last week. Fortunately neither the Huey or anyone in it was affected by the engine failure.
Apparently they have installed a replacement engine, and by this morning they were getting everything together to test run the machine.
I really like the Huey, and its been a great success in Cape Town, but I'm beginning to have my doubts about the airworthiness of the machine.
Come Gary, give us the facts! Are you being up to no good?
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Duh.............Murphy works on the Waterfront. As I mentioned before, thank your stars that its a Huey as it will fly pretty much no matter what folks do to it.
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FACT:-
The Huey did NOT have an engine failure. Where did you scratch that bit of #### from?
The huey did have an oil leak at the rear seal and a decision was made by the WELL qualified engineer (read car mechanic ) to remove the hot section and replace all the seals to avoid breakdown during season.
Parts were in fact purchased from a Lycoming certified supplier ( read as LOCAL HARDWARE ) in Amrica where you are not allowed to have fun with a Huey so the loud mouth Yanks have to come here to sunny Sefrica!!!
Hey Bert your snotty comments are not welcome as I seem to remember you actually flew the Huey yourself and were always welcome at our facilities for braai's etc. Why the sudden change?
The marines had a poster which says it all for you negative back stabbers:
Offensive language removed. Bit touchy are we KK? 4HP
The Huey did NOT have an engine failure. Where did you scratch that bit of #### from?
The huey did have an oil leak at the rear seal and a decision was made by the WELL qualified engineer (read car mechanic ) to remove the hot section and replace all the seals to avoid breakdown during season.
Parts were in fact purchased from a Lycoming certified supplier ( read as LOCAL HARDWARE ) in Amrica where you are not allowed to have fun with a Huey so the loud mouth Yanks have to come here to sunny Sefrica!!!
Hey Bert your snotty comments are not welcome as I seem to remember you actually flew the Huey yourself and were always welcome at our facilities for braai's etc. Why the sudden change?
The marines had a poster which says it all for you negative back stabbers:
Offensive language removed. Bit touchy are we KK? 4HP
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Watch out Mr. Bert, don't cross the mechanic!!
Eddie, Are you back there??????? Geezzz my man, what have you gotten yourself into........again????
Everybody loves the Huey, but it must be safe. That's the bottom line! There is no compromise for safety, and if you guys are taking shortcuts by fitting incorrect parts and flying with timex components fitted to the Huey...... well my man, that's criminal!!!!
Come on Eddie, tell us the truth my man. Can you honestly say what you guys are doing parts and maintenance wise, is correct!!!
Can you honestly say that the Huey is in great mechanical shape, that there are no problems with the machine and that all your paperwork is in order??? For your sake I hope it is.
Maybe you can also tell us then why there are rumours doing the rounds at the SACAA that there are airworthiness problems.....big problems relating to components, and no log cards. Is it true, or are the SACAA Inspectors a bunch of liars??
Long live the Huey!!!
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Who let the Dogs out.Woof Woof........
Kennel Keeper, Francois invited me, and I think may have invited you..I also believe he footed the bill.. I paid for my own booze, thanks.
Since it must be known....Yes I did fly it once, and will never do so again.....
And since you opened the can of worms, I will mention why.
Any Huey that has to be started from the Emergency Governor Position just to get a light, then catch the throttle before the TGT goes through the roof...Should be grounded.
Any Huey that cannot fly over 80-90 knots without shaking parts into the ocean because the blades are so far out of track, should be grounded.
Any Huey that leaks oil from the Blade Grip reservoirs so bad that they have to be filled every flight, should be grounded.
ANY aircraft with no Historical Records should have a Pole shoved up its ass and mounted at the front gate.
That is what I observed When I flew it.
I dont think I have to go on.. about things like T/T straps etc.
I personally sent gaskets and things to get some of the major problems solved. That was out of my pocket. Also sent you your CD with all the maintenance information. When I asked if you needed parts , I got a laundry list a mile long, but when money was mentioned..ooops, we dont need them.
I still have a stupid Cargo Hook at home in my garage that nobody seemed to want. I certainly dont want the dam thing. (Its one of those things you use for proper slingloads in a Huey, not a B205)
I never posted this before in respect to Francois.......So you got it from a loud mouthed Yank with over 2000 hours in all models of Hueys.(and were properly maintained)
I did enjoy myself there but I also saw a major war about to happen based on what was going on. As you know CAA got into it with both feet and the war is not over.
So you can defend your position all day long and never make it right. The best chance for something similar would be to get some certified 205s and do the same thing.
I dont think my comments were snotty. I just said Murphy is working on the waterfront..........and it appears hes looking over your shoulder.
Fire Away....its your game.
Kennel Keeper, Francois invited me, and I think may have invited you..I also believe he footed the bill.. I paid for my own booze, thanks.
Since it must be known....Yes I did fly it once, and will never do so again.....
And since you opened the can of worms, I will mention why.
Any Huey that has to be started from the Emergency Governor Position just to get a light, then catch the throttle before the TGT goes through the roof...Should be grounded.
Any Huey that cannot fly over 80-90 knots without shaking parts into the ocean because the blades are so far out of track, should be grounded.
Any Huey that leaks oil from the Blade Grip reservoirs so bad that they have to be filled every flight, should be grounded.
ANY aircraft with no Historical Records should have a Pole shoved up its ass and mounted at the front gate.
That is what I observed When I flew it.
I dont think I have to go on.. about things like T/T straps etc.
I personally sent gaskets and things to get some of the major problems solved. That was out of my pocket. Also sent you your CD with all the maintenance information. When I asked if you needed parts , I got a laundry list a mile long, but when money was mentioned..ooops, we dont need them.
I still have a stupid Cargo Hook at home in my garage that nobody seemed to want. I certainly dont want the dam thing. (Its one of those things you use for proper slingloads in a Huey, not a B205)
I never posted this before in respect to Francois.......So you got it from a loud mouthed Yank with over 2000 hours in all models of Hueys.(and were properly maintained)
I did enjoy myself there but I also saw a major war about to happen based on what was going on. As you know CAA got into it with both feet and the war is not over.
So you can defend your position all day long and never make it right. The best chance for something similar would be to get some certified 205s and do the same thing.
I dont think my comments were snotty. I just said Murphy is working on the waterfront..........and it appears hes looking over your shoulder.
Fire Away....its your game.
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Spoke to the guys at CHC, Huey did have an engine failure and the gods must have smiled on them as they autorotated on to the practise field. (Rumour has it it was for the foxes renewal )
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Warloc....... Not a rumour my man. The Huey is parked on the east side of the Airport (SAAF Hangars) after an engine failure or engine problems in flight. Just yesterday they got the machine going after previous engine problems.
Gary is really letting the Huey fans down by his hard-headedness. Why can he simply not understand that there are problems, and that the mechanic is NOT a qualified helicopter engineer, has NO papers of any nature, has no decent tools, test benches or anything feasible to do a proper maintenance job. Then there's the Fox, a so called Huey expert with fake licenses and NO working experience on any Huey. A recipe for disaster.
Come on Gary, this is not the way to go about things. Safety first. Don't take the chances, you're gonna hurt yourself and someone else...... overseas visitors for that matter. Gear up your business, shape up or ship out.
Gary is really letting the Huey fans down by his hard-headedness. Why can he simply not understand that there are problems, and that the mechanic is NOT a qualified helicopter engineer, has NO papers of any nature, has no decent tools, test benches or anything feasible to do a proper maintenance job. Then there's the Fox, a so called Huey expert with fake licenses and NO working experience on any Huey. A recipe for disaster.
Come on Gary, this is not the way to go about things. Safety first. Don't take the chances, you're gonna hurt yourself and someone else...... overseas visitors for that matter. Gear up your business, shape up or ship out.
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Mmmmmmm, what a circus!
It is clear that the Huey's got major problems, and between the 2 Garys & Eddie, they can't solve it.
I'm now beginning to wonder why Francois is no longer associated with the Huey. Could it be for safety reasons? Did he see the warning signs? Come on Francois, if you're out there, why don't you give us your thoughts and tell us what your opinion is on what is going wrong now. We'd all love to hear.
As a huge Huey fan, I have flown on the Huey a number of times, both with Gary & Francois, and I really love the machine. I also thought that what the Huey did for Cape Town's helicopter scene was marvellous, but now I'm beginning to worry about the safety aspects, and the SAFE operation of the Huey.
It is clear that there are major problems, and that Gary is either to stubborn to realise that there are problems. Owning and operating an AMO for 15 years surely should give him the edge to know that you cannot continue operating and flying a machine with faults, suspect components (albeit on condition) and poor maintenance. There's obviously a problem.
Come on Gary, Eddie, Shaun & Co, fix it nicely, sort out the
t, and lets us see a safe Huey in the skies this summer. Otherwise, keep it on the ground until its safe.
Don't let the Huey, yourselves or any pax become an accident statistic, because the way its going now, its on the cards.
Out of you all, Eddie, you should know that whatever you're doing to that machine thats not according to the regulations, are dangerous, unacceptable and criminal. You will have all the s t on your shoulders. Is it really worth it?..... And that for a few bucks???..... I'd be thinking very careful if I was you......consciously!!!!
It is clear that the Huey's got major problems, and between the 2 Garys & Eddie, they can't solve it.
I'm now beginning to wonder why Francois is no longer associated with the Huey. Could it be for safety reasons? Did he see the warning signs? Come on Francois, if you're out there, why don't you give us your thoughts and tell us what your opinion is on what is going wrong now. We'd all love to hear.
As a huge Huey fan, I have flown on the Huey a number of times, both with Gary & Francois, and I really love the machine. I also thought that what the Huey did for Cape Town's helicopter scene was marvellous, but now I'm beginning to worry about the safety aspects, and the SAFE operation of the Huey.
It is clear that there are major problems, and that Gary is either to stubborn to realise that there are problems. Owning and operating an AMO for 15 years surely should give him the edge to know that you cannot continue operating and flying a machine with faults, suspect components (albeit on condition) and poor maintenance. There's obviously a problem.
Come on Gary, Eddie, Shaun & Co, fix it nicely, sort out the
t, and lets us see a safe Huey in the skies this summer. Otherwise, keep it on the ground until its safe.Don't let the Huey, yourselves or any pax become an accident statistic, because the way its going now, its on the cards.
Out of you all, Eddie, you should know that whatever you're doing to that machine thats not according to the regulations, are dangerous, unacceptable and criminal. You will have all the s
t on your shoulders. Is it really worth it?..... And that for a few bucks???..... I'd be thinking very careful if I was you......consciously!!!!
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The more information I get, the more concerned I get, and right now I'm kinda disgusted.
This whole issue revolves around money, and it is absolutely amazing what some folks will do for money. Its really sickening.
1. What is the first thing an instructor teaches you when you go for your first lesson? Inspect the paperwork, make sure the machine is appropriately licensed, registered, airworthy, and that all the documents are in order.
Dave Mouton, who is a DE, was in command of the Huey when it had a compressor stall and other engine related problems during a training flight, and he executed the "forced landing". The CAA should be all over him like a rash, as it is very clear here that he came to Cape Town to do the conversions for Gird, Fox and Bohnen, only for money. Gary has a history of paying people off, and one should understand here that Mr. Mouton was paid, and he gladly accepted payment to fly a helicopter that:
a. Has no C of A as it was revoked by the SACAA.
b. Is not airworthy as per a CAA report after an inspection
c. Are being maintained by a mechanic who has no qualifications whatsoever, and is knowlingly doing work and fitting parts to the machine which he knows are unservicable. (Also for money and pressure from Gary)
d. Is not on a Part 141 training license of any sort, yet Mr. Mouton is conducting training which is also contrary to the law.
The SACAA should immediately pull Mr. Mouton's licenses (Like they did with the Drban three) until he can prove that he is competent to be an instructor let alone a DE, as he evidently does not understand the law, or, deliberately broke it.... for money! What a boy!! Absolutely disgusting! No training license, non airworthy machine..... Gee, what a boykie! Total disregard for the law. Nail him SACAA, Nail him!
Rumour also has it that "patches" flew off the main rotor blades, as the blades were patched prior to fitment. Man this is criminal
So,.... it now appears that the Huey has really gone backward in condition during the past few months, and yet van der Merwe is of the opinion that there is nothing wrong with the machine and that it will be flying again in a few days. The SACAA should lock the Huey away in a hangar, and throw away the key to the lock. It has now become an accident waiting to happen, which will severely damage the Cape Town helicopter scene, should it happen.
I'm really disgusted at what these so called professionals are getting up to.
And Mr. Fox???? He's in line for a conversion...... this after he flew the Huey last year without a rating, and to date has still not satisfied the SACAA that he had a rating. I mean... if he was rated like he said he was, why was Mr. Mouton meant to give him a rating??? The whole thing stinks, and I hope that the SACAA this time will have the balls and the courage to deal with these jokers. Put them away!!!!
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Bladestrap, where are you getting your information?
What a story? Is this all true? My goodness, what are these people doing?
This has become a circus. How sad. I have always been a front runner/campaigner for the Huey as I know most of the people involved personally, and have attended numerous Huey functions. I find it hard to believe that this is all happening.
Is this the end of the Huey? It sure sounds like it!
Geezzz, I still can't believe all this.
What a story? Is this all true? My goodness, what are these people doing? This has become a circus. How sad. I have always been a front runner/campaigner for the Huey as I know most of the people involved personally, and have attended numerous Huey functions. I find it hard to believe that this is all happening.
Is this the end of the Huey? It sure sounds like it!
Geezzz, I still can't believe all this.
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Seriously waiting for Kennel Keeper to quit chasing his tail and commit some more Bull to this forum.
Sorry to hear about Dave. Hes a good Pilot, but life does revolve around money. A DE who knows that the CAA is all over that thing should really be watching from a distance, not sigining off ratings.....If that was what was happening. Sort of puts ones license in jeopardy.
You folks have no clue how much was made by the "Huey Club" doing flips for "membership" . Im betting it was a better cash cow than owning your own Winery in Franschoek. Im sure when the CAA stuff is over, that question will come up with your Revenue boys. It was a great idea and very little financial outlay........as we can now see.
Look at the Bright side of this. They have two or three more Hueys in the same condition or worse in the hangar. Eddie the Panel Beater was doing some great Mods to them. Im sure the CAA will bite off on the Modifications and a sign off on a different C/G.... NOT
I do hope the CAA will come out from behind the bush and take corrective action based upon in place Rules and Regulations. Im certain they are watching this forum with glee. This whole mess is WHY Surplus Hueys are not flying with Passengers in the states... Since Kennel Keeper needs a reply.
Lite My Fire...........
to this forum.Sorry to hear about Dave. Hes a good Pilot, but life does revolve around money. A DE who knows that the CAA is all over that thing should really be watching from a distance, not sigining off ratings.....If that was what was happening. Sort of puts ones license in jeopardy.
You folks have no clue how much was made by the "Huey Club" doing flips for "membership" . Im betting it was a better cash cow than owning your own Winery in Franschoek. Im sure when the CAA stuff is over, that question will come up with your Revenue boys. It was a great idea and very little financial outlay........as we can now see.
Look at the Bright side of this. They have two or three more Hueys in the same condition or worse in the hangar. Eddie the Panel Beater was doing some great Mods to them. Im sure the CAA will bite off on the Modifications and a sign off on a different C/G.... NOT
I do hope the CAA will come out from behind the bush and take corrective action based upon in place Rules and Regulations. Im certain they are watching this forum with glee. This whole mess is WHY Surplus Hueys are not flying with Passengers in the states... Since Kennel Keeper needs a reply.
Lite My Fire...........
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