Air Rage Scrapping at EGFH?
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Having spoken to a few people at Swansea Airport including ATC and a Heli Pilot I can say the following about the incident......
A very reputable and experience Helicopter Instructor was about to send a student Solo after building his confidence over a period of time that day. During a circuit at Swansea whilst DownWind a fixed wing Pilot flew into the circuit and overtook the Helicopter whilst DownWind and proceeded to cut the corner on Base causing the Helicopter instructor to take control and use evasive actions to avoid a serious accident. The tower scolded the fixed wing pilot who refused to accept responsibility for his outrageous action and poor airmanship. The student in the Heli was shook up and didnt go Solo and the Pilots were asked to attend the tower to debrief. The arrogant fixed wing Pilot refused to appologise and made derogatory comments to the Helicopter instructor who was fuming and it seems that emotions were out of control and this led to an incident. Both parties were to blame but the fixed wing pilot came off worse and from my understanding deserved it and should stick to another sport where his ego cannot put other lives at risk.......
In this environment there is no excuse for unsafe activities in the air, however my advise to the Heli Pilot would be to use the strength of the CAA investigations department rather than your fist in future although I do sympathise with you.
A very reputable and experience Helicopter Instructor was about to send a student Solo after building his confidence over a period of time that day. During a circuit at Swansea whilst DownWind a fixed wing Pilot flew into the circuit and overtook the Helicopter whilst DownWind and proceeded to cut the corner on Base causing the Helicopter instructor to take control and use evasive actions to avoid a serious accident. The tower scolded the fixed wing pilot who refused to accept responsibility for his outrageous action and poor airmanship. The student in the Heli was shook up and didnt go Solo and the Pilots were asked to attend the tower to debrief. The arrogant fixed wing Pilot refused to appologise and made derogatory comments to the Helicopter instructor who was fuming and it seems that emotions were out of control and this led to an incident. Both parties were to blame but the fixed wing pilot came off worse and from my understanding deserved it and should stick to another sport where his ego cannot put other lives at risk.......
In this environment there is no excuse for unsafe activities in the air, however my advise to the Heli Pilot would be to use the strength of the CAA investigations department rather than your fist in future although I do sympathise with you.
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Sounds to me like you've got double standards.
You were very grateful (yesterday) when I took the trouble to find out the full facts and post them when you were being condemned by people on the basis of a rumour which which turned out to be only part of the story and false in several respects.
Some of them still consider your behaviour was totally unacceptable, but at least they are now able to form an opinion based on the facts not on rumour/gossip.
FL
You were very grateful (yesterday) when I took the trouble to find out the full facts and post them when you were being condemned by people on the basis of a rumour which which turned out to be only part of the story and false in several respects.
Some of them still consider your behaviour was totally unacceptable, but at least they are now able to form an opinion based on the facts not on rumour/gossip.
FL
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I most certainly do not not not have double standards,you took the time and the trouble to investigate properly all of the spurious allegations that were being directed my way,and I appreciatted your efforts.With regard to the swansea incident,as the police are now involved no-one, least of all the managenent along with the eye witnesses are saying anything aBout the incident,therefore and until all of the facts are made public no-one can make a judgement about this unsavoury incident.
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But based on gossip, you feel able to make this judgement:
until all of the facts are made public no-one can make a judgement about this unsavoury incident.
But based on gossip, you feel able to make this judgement:
sounds to me you are trying to defend the indefensibe,or in other words "puting a case up for this totally unaceptable behavior.
