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Old 22nd May 2008 | 10:56
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Jock - you maybe right about that. I thought it was no training up to 1,000 ltrs, a one-day course up to 2,000 ltrs and a 3 day course above that. I am quite prepared to be wrong though..

Pieman - after 3 years "working with" the NHS I can understand now why Captain Finn used to lock himself away in the darkened office!

Steve - think the current plan is to buy, but hiring / borrowing / scrounging can never be ruled out if the price is right.
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Old 22nd May 2008 | 13:04
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And don't forget how you will insure it on the road. I have held an ADR licence for many years but found it impossible to get cover when I was looking to tow a 1500 litre bowser a couple of years ago. As soon as I mentioned what I wanted to convey every insurance company or broker I contacted refused point blank to provide cover due to the risks. In fact I was told 'I was uninsurable'.

I would be interested to hear of anyone elses experiences who ARE towing fuel bowsers and how they got their insurance cover - assuming that the insurance cover required was to transport Jet A1 (Kerocene) and not just to tow a trailer!
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Old 22nd May 2008 | 17:52
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I've heard of someone who covers their bowser (one of the 'squared off' types, not round) with a tarpaulin, so it looks like a normal trailer! Off he goes and fills it up from his source.

Heaven forbid! What these pilot types get up to is nobody's business
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Old 22nd May 2008 | 19:47
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I know an AS350 operator who carries the fuel tank in the back of an enclosed truck.

Out of sight and out of mind seems to work for him.
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Old 5th June 2008 | 19:17
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Fuel Bowser - 1,000ltr

Hi All,

I need to buy a fuel bowser to keep on the airfiled. I guess i will go for a road legal version for Avgas. Questions are

1) Anyone recomend a manufacturer?
2) If we keep it on airfield, we will have to employ the airfield to take it to get filled up on the apron (they will not fill it on the grass nor stop on the nearby taxiway to fill it) do we need liability insurance etc for it??
3) Does the CAP748 apply....do we have to keep records of fuel test and samples etc....I am guessing we do...

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Old 6th June 2008 | 07:38
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After checking, the ADR course is one day for 1,000ltrs, Well equiped bowser from good manufactire is £7,500 plus vat.

I am working ont the insurance but as an 'aircraft operator' it looks like i will need 'hangerkeepers liability' in order to cover the risks ascoiated with the Bowser....lets guess £3,000 plus ipt PER YEAR

ADR course £200

Insurance for road risks towing fuel....no idea

'Airside insruance' for car to get it on/off the air...no idea

'heath and saftey' and 'operating procedures' as per the CAP document above....no idea

The story goes on but i will not bore you all with it...all beacuse the Heli is on the grass and not the apron..
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Old 8th March 2025 | 04:28
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Limit of fuel for DG (JET-A1) without requiring further training

You're right, the limit is typically 1000L for DG (JET-A1) without requiring further training. For over 1000L, additional training may be necessary. As for your trailer, double axles and brakes are not always mandatory but are definitely recommended for safety. Placards are required if you’re carrying over 1000L of hazardous material. You can check for second-hand trailers in the Border region through local marketplaces or specialized dealers. For more details on HGV and hazardous material transport, make sure to consult the relevant guidelines!

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Old 2nd May 2025 | 09:34
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Originally Posted by Donovan James
You're right, the limit is typically 1000L for DG (JET-A1) without requiring further training. For over 1000L, additional training may be necessary. As for your trailer, double axles and brakes are not always mandatory but are definitely recommended for safety. Placards are required if you’re carrying over 1000L of hazardous material. You can check for second-hand trailers in the Border region through local marketplaces or specialized dealers. For more details on HGV and hazardous material transport, make sure to consult the relevant guidelines!
Oh, and if you're planning to carry over 1000L regularly, don't forget to look into ADR training , It's often required and helps keep everything compliant.

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