SAR: Search & Rescue Ops [Archive Copy]
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Maybe it's the background. I've flown on five person SAR crews that have a total of more than 15,000 hours rotary SAR.
I haven't heard of any of this, but if it comes to fruition, give me a call. What a great experience to work there as a consultant for a few weeks.
Matthew.
I haven't heard of any of this, but if it comes to fruition, give me a call. What a great experience to work there as a consultant for a few weeks.
Matthew.
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My understanding (Iam sure someone will correct me if Iam wrong) is that boat has already sailed. I believe that some Aussie crews have already been to china and conducted training.
Iam sure they might even post a reply!!
Iam sure they might even post a reply!!
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Who's hiring and firing SAR crew trainers in China
SARBE.
I think you are partly correct; nevertheless, I have heard a whisper that a rearcrew training requirement is extant.
I have had a couple of private responses to my original question; however, I suspect that there is still some good info out there. 'C'mon guys, throw me a friggin' bone here'.
I think you are partly correct; nevertheless, I have heard a whisper that a rearcrew training requirement is extant.
I have had a couple of private responses to my original question; however, I suspect that there is still some good info out there. 'C'mon guys, throw me a friggin' bone here'.
Coast Guard Search And Rescue
I have been watching the local bbc station here in the south west and a programme was aired last nite about the south west Coast Guard`s work during last summer. Of interest to me was the Search and Rescue team flying the S61 based at Portland which I have had the pleasure of being airbourne with a couple of times for excercises.
This particular episode dealt with a child being swept out off shore ( Chesil Beach ) and the desperate attempts of two adults who also got into difficulties to save the young lad.
The episode showed how the aircrew dealt with this situation from the scramble to the winching where the combined weight of the aircrew and film crew, no wind and air temperature meant that whilst winching in the first 2 casualties, if the aicraft suffered an engine failure then they were all going to get wet.
The winchman brought aboard the young lad first, and it clear that he was in dire straights, the film crew actually toke over CPR whilst the second casualty was winched aboard, he too was critical. The aircraft made the short transit to the A & E landing pad which is in the middle of a town and was designed for the Navy mk 4 Sea King, so with no room to spare the medical staff took off the two casualties. Then it was back to the sea to winch aboard a third adult from the inshore inflatable who required urgent attention. Again it was back to the tight squeeze of the A & E.
Apart from the horror/saddness of watching a young lad in the back of the cab being given CPR and knowing that every one is trying to save his life, the programme showed how the news of the lads death and that of one of his recuers affected the aircrew.
Tip my hat to you guys every time you fly over the area, to those who remember, it was`nt that long ago Portland lost an aircraft to an in flight engine fire and ONLY just got the aircraft down!
Fine bunch of blokes. I will be watching next week.
This particular episode dealt with a child being swept out off shore ( Chesil Beach ) and the desperate attempts of two adults who also got into difficulties to save the young lad.
The episode showed how the aircrew dealt with this situation from the scramble to the winching where the combined weight of the aircrew and film crew, no wind and air temperature meant that whilst winching in the first 2 casualties, if the aicraft suffered an engine failure then they were all going to get wet.
The winchman brought aboard the young lad first, and it clear that he was in dire straights, the film crew actually toke over CPR whilst the second casualty was winched aboard, he too was critical. The aircraft made the short transit to the A & E landing pad which is in the middle of a town and was designed for the Navy mk 4 Sea King, so with no room to spare the medical staff took off the two casualties. Then it was back to the sea to winch aboard a third adult from the inshore inflatable who required urgent attention. Again it was back to the tight squeeze of the A & E.
Apart from the horror/saddness of watching a young lad in the back of the cab being given CPR and knowing that every one is trying to save his life, the programme showed how the news of the lads death and that of one of his recuers affected the aircrew.
Tip my hat to you guys every time you fly over the area, to those who remember, it was`nt that long ago Portland lost an aircraft to an in flight engine fire and ONLY just got the aircraft down!
Fine bunch of blokes. I will be watching next week.
coley, my wife watched that programme and said that it should have been shown on national TV; most people who die in the water around the UK coast are on holiday and have little or no knowledge of how dangerous a beach can be. Anyone who knows Chesil Beach knows it is steeply shelving and has a very nasty, dumping shorebreak with a vicious undertow. Apparently the poor lads parents were bemaoaning the fact that there was not a sign saying the beach was dangerous - my argument is that just by asking someone they could have prevented their son's death.
I live in N Devon and am constantly astounded by the ignorance of tides and beach safety that holidaymakers demonstrate - does no-one have a sense of self-preservation any more?
I live in N Devon and am constantly astounded by the ignorance of tides and beach safety that holidaymakers demonstrate - does no-one have a sense of self-preservation any more?
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As far as I am aware, it was shown nationally.
It was called 'Danger on the Beach' and is on Wednesdays at 7pm BBC 1. We watched it here up in N.Yorkshire and thoroughly enjoyed it. Recommend viewing for all.
I can only echo coleys synopsis of the programme.
and that goes for the lifeboat crew and beach lifeguards aswell, (one of whom has the same [full] name as my son!)
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Also a reminder, that the person who overtakes you in a rush may not be a boy racer, but could be a volunteer lifeboat person.
It was called 'Danger on the Beach' and is on Wednesdays at 7pm BBC 1. We watched it here up in N.Yorkshire and thoroughly enjoyed it. Recommend viewing for all.
I can only echo coleys synopsis of the programme.
Fine bunch of blokes. I will be watching next week.
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Also a reminder, that the person who overtakes you in a rush may not be a boy racer, but could be a volunteer lifeboat person.
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Often thought the extremes of emotion in that job must be greater than just about any other. Fear, excitement, despair, relief, joy. Hats off to them.
Pretty sure its shown nationally. No mention of 'regional' on BBC.
7:00 pm
Danger on the Beach
New documentary series following coastal rescue teams. A boy gets swept out to sea in Dorset, and the Newquay lifeguards rescue an injured surfer. Some viewers may find some scenes upsetting.
Pretty sure its shown nationally. No mention of 'regional' on BBC.
7:00 pm
Danger on the Beach
New documentary series following coastal rescue teams. A boy gets swept out to sea in Dorset, and the Newquay lifeguards rescue an injured surfer. Some viewers may find some scenes upsetting.
Crab, I don't think they do. Life is expected to be risk free, and if it isn't then someone should have done something to make it so.
It's not such a modern phenomenon, I remember reading a Fleet Air Arm mag in the mid 80's where a SAR crew was called out to rescue a lad blown out to sea on an inflatable raft of some sort. Apparently, when the crew tried telling the parents that it wasn't such a good idea to allow their son out on an inflatable in those conditions, they got a right mouthful. The following day they were called out to the same beach where the same lad had been blown out to sea on his new inflatable. Some people are just too stupid for words.
(The programme is national; I'm in the Midlands and watched part of it - the dropping off of the casualties at the hospital - it looked very harrowing for all concerned).
It's not such a modern phenomenon, I remember reading a Fleet Air Arm mag in the mid 80's where a SAR crew was called out to rescue a lad blown out to sea on an inflatable raft of some sort. Apparently, when the crew tried telling the parents that it wasn't such a good idea to allow their son out on an inflatable in those conditions, they got a right mouthful. The following day they were called out to the same beach where the same lad had been blown out to sea on his new inflatable. Some people are just too stupid for words.
(The programme is national; I'm in the Midlands and watched part of it - the dropping off of the casualties at the hospital - it looked very harrowing for all concerned).
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Not only seen throughout UK, but a mate of mine was watching it on cable TV in Amsterdam!
A damn good programme which shows what all rescue crews (land, sea or air) have to do to save someone who is in trouble, be it by accident ot stupidity. Unfortunately, the ones who should really be paying heed to all of this are probably those who work on the "It'll never happen to me" basis.
Looking forward to next weeks episode.
JKnife
A damn good programme which shows what all rescue crews (land, sea or air) have to do to save someone who is in trouble, be it by accident ot stupidity. Unfortunately, the ones who should really be paying heed to all of this are probably those who work on the "It'll never happen to me" basis.
Looking forward to next weeks episode.
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The parents of the child with the inflatable are probably the same ones who complained that the aircraft didn't bring the inflatable back aswell. I think the Sqn sent them the bill for the call out to shut them up. Then there was the family who complained that when the Sea King landed on the beach to pick up a heart attack victim it blew sand into their picnic, why couldn't it have landed somewhere else!!!!! Some people just shouldn't be allowed out.
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I watched the programme in Hertfordshire and was very moved by it. The family who got stranded in their motor boat with an engine failure gave the other example. I know this talks about things that go on water (how perverted is that?) but it was the same prog.
They made their radio call early, even on the recording on TV you could hear it all clearly (if it was the original tapes!) but when the RNLI offshore boat got there, they had all got their life jackets on and had given accurate location data.
At the end of the prog, they advised that signs were being put on the beach near the camp ground where the family had been staying.
The S61 looked great and it would have been fine if we could have had closer views of the pilot making, as he was adjusting the 'one foot left' and the 'two foot right' as requested, whilst in the hover. Serious rotoring going on!
They made their radio call early, even on the recording on TV you could hear it all clearly (if it was the original tapes!) but when the RNLI offshore boat got there, they had all got their life jackets on and had given accurate location data.
At the end of the prog, they advised that signs were being put on the beach near the camp ground where the family had been staying.
The S61 looked great and it would have been fine if we could have had closer views of the pilot making, as he was adjusting the 'one foot left' and the 'two foot right' as requested, whilst in the hover. Serious rotoring going on!
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Hi Arctic Tern,
Yep your right there were 2 brand new S76C+ models delivered in 2001 with training conducted by a combination of Canadian and Aussie SAR crews in 2002 - So I guess in this case the SAR Boat has Certainly Long Sailed!
Yep your right there were 2 brand new S76C+ models delivered in 2001 with training conducted by a combination of Canadian and Aussie SAR crews in 2002 - So I guess in this case the SAR Boat has Certainly Long Sailed!
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Congrats to Bristows SAR
Well done all concerned. Nice to see the 'Red and white' SAR Boys getting some praise instead of some of the negative press. When you put all the friendly rivalry aside, even the military SAR Boys recognise a job well done. Who was it that decided that there wasn't a need for SAR at Portland? Plonkers!
The public can rest assured that they are getting the best SAR helicopter service anywhere in the world. The mix of civvy and military crews take pride in the service they provide; and it's not all just 'roughy-toughy' stuff. There is compasson aswell.
The public can rest assured that they are getting the best SAR helicopter service anywhere in the world. The mix of civvy and military crews take pride in the service they provide; and it's not all just 'roughy-toughy' stuff. There is compasson aswell.
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Just to bring this thread to the top and let y'all know it's on this evening at 7pm BBC1.
(Ok, so its 10 mins to go before wednesday, but there you go!)
(Ok, so its 10 mins to go before wednesday, but there you go!)
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BEIJING, March 26 (Xinhuanet) -- China plans to set up three more offshore helicopter rescue teams this year to guarantee safety in sea areas, said sources with the Ministry of Communications Friday.
The North Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue team was scheduled to be launched this April and the rescuers with two helicopters would bestationed in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning Province, said an official with the ministry who asked to be anonymous.
Another two helicopter rescue teams, the East Sea No. 2 and theSouth Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue teams, were expected to be set up within the year, said the official.
At present, China has only one helicopter rescue team, namely the Shanghai Offshore Helicopter Rescue Team stationed in Shanghai,which will be re-named as the East Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue team.
With the new expansion, the four rescue teams will be stationedin the Bohai Sea, Shanghai, Taiwan Strait and Qiongzhou Strait foremergency help on the sea.
China's offshore rescue work was still in its early stages and could only operate in daytime within a distance of 80 sea miles, said the official.
To better develop China's maritime rescue system, the Ministry of Communications purchased four helicopters this year for offshore rescue, which will be put into use in 2006, according to China News Service on Thursday. Enditem
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The North Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue team was scheduled to be launched this April and the rescuers with two helicopters would bestationed in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning Province, said an official with the ministry who asked to be anonymous.
Another two helicopter rescue teams, the East Sea No. 2 and theSouth Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue teams, were expected to be set up within the year, said the official.
At present, China has only one helicopter rescue team, namely the Shanghai Offshore Helicopter Rescue Team stationed in Shanghai,which will be re-named as the East Sea No. 1 helicopter rescue team.
With the new expansion, the four rescue teams will be stationedin the Bohai Sea, Shanghai, Taiwan Strait and Qiongzhou Strait foremergency help on the sea.
China's offshore rescue work was still in its early stages and could only operate in daytime within a distance of 80 sea miles, said the official.
To better develop China's maritime rescue system, the Ministry of Communications purchased four helicopters this year for offshore rescue, which will be put into use in 2006, according to China News Service on Thursday. Enditem
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search and rescue in a fling wing?
Hey all...I'm currently training with Massey in Palmerston North (NZ) and am having a great time. Question.....fixed or rotary? and if I am leaning towards the flingwing option, how would I best go about getting into search and rescue? (ps i have till june to make up my mind. from then on its too late as ill have my PPL (yay!) and will steadily advance(fingers crossed) into my CPL training!)
Thanx all!
~I~
Thanx all!
~I~
For somebody just doing their training now, the fastest way to get into a SAR helicopter is to fall off a cliff.
If you want to FLY one, there is no fast way. Just get a couple of thousand turbine hours and 4 or 5 instrument rating renewals, a hoist and sling endorsement, and it's a walk-in.
If you want to FLY one, there is no fast way. Just get a couple of thousand turbine hours and 4 or 5 instrument rating renewals, a hoist and sling endorsement, and it's a walk-in.
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join the forces let the government pay for it!
unless youve got 10 years and £50,000 pound to spare for your training.
fixed wings are very unsafe how many helos have you sat in only to find that gaffa tape MAY be aprooved by the caa?
p.s. how do you spekk approved?
unless youve got 10 years and £50,000 pound to spare for your training.
fixed wings are very unsafe how many helos have you sat in only to find that gaffa tape MAY be aprooved by the caa?
p.s. how do you spekk approved?