AS355 TwinStar
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Gents,
With the recent introduction of dual hydraulics on the B3 variant, does Eurocopter have plans to put the same kit onto B2 frame or is it just only for the B3? I am not a pilot, just an Ecureuil enthusiast willing to learn so much about this great machine
With the recent introduction of dual hydraulics on the B3 variant, does Eurocopter have plans to put the same kit onto B2 frame or is it just only for the B3? I am not a pilot, just an Ecureuil enthusiast willing to learn so much about this great machine
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AS350/AS355 question
Couple of quick questions regarding the AS350/AS355
Does anyone known the approximate “G” force required to induce hydraulic jack stall, I understand that the force exerted back through the rotor head to the hydraulic actuators is about 360 kgs of force to trigger the limit light in a AS355 but was just looking for this as it equates to a “G” loading.
Also does any one have a copy of the technical manual for an AS355F2?
Does anyone known the approximate “G” force required to induce hydraulic jack stall, I understand that the force exerted back through the rotor head to the hydraulic actuators is about 360 kgs of force to trigger the limit light in a AS355 but was just looking for this as it equates to a “G” loading.
Also does any one have a copy of the technical manual for an AS355F2?
The AS350 g limit is 2.67, from memory, and I know you could induce feedback through the cyclic, ie jack stall, at less than that - from a 140 kt or so dive, pulling reasonably firmly to get (I'd estimate) about 2 g would make it happen. We used to do this at a safe height as a demo.
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It will be a function of density altitude, airspeed and load factor and collective position.
At high DA, it will happen at a lower indicated airspeed with the same load factor and collective position.
At high DA, it will happen at a lower indicated airspeed with the same load factor and collective position.
Yes, just some of many 'different' things you can do in a helicopter!
Was passing through WG the other day and saw a bunch of Squirrels plummeting into the lanes, a couple of names from a few years ago apparently driving them..."Practice!"
Was passing through WG the other day and saw a bunch of Squirrels plummeting into the lanes, a couple of names from a few years ago apparently driving them..."Practice!"
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Hey guys I need a little help from you 355 dudes. Here is the situation; 355F2 coming to our company. We have 350B2 experience only. What are the starting procedures relating to introducing fuel (at 15%?) and generators coming on line?
Thanks,
Jerry
Thanks,
Jerry
"Just a pilot"
AS355F1, as I recollect. F2 similar...
1. Push starter button, holding lever in shut-off detent (all back/down) listening up smart-like and watching temps.
2. At 15%, holding the button, advance lever to idle detent, monitoring NG and temps throughout start. Starting the C20 relies on a strong battery and good starter/gen, fuel control start scheduling: no modulation, repeat, NO MODULATION- it's fuel on or off.
3. 60% NG, release starter button, establish idle for engine warm-up.
4. Increase NG to 70%, Generator switch "ON", monitor NG and ammeter.
5. Ammeter back into green, start second engine.
That's how I recall PHI's checklist, which is/was safest possible in their opinion.
My recollection is that one could start second engine immediately after first was established at idle, battery permitting. If that's the situation, you let each warm up before you advance to 70% NG and bringing each generator on-line.
Kinda hazy on the F2 other than increased MGTO, tens of thousands of starts in the F/F1 (ending 15 years ago) but only a couple dozen F2, something about a completely split electrical bus, with the normal pair of start/gen buttons, but 2 battery switches?
2. At 15%, holding the button, advance lever to idle detent, monitoring NG and temps throughout start. Starting the C20 relies on a strong battery and good starter/gen, fuel control start scheduling: no modulation, repeat, NO MODULATION- it's fuel on or off.
3. 60% NG, release starter button, establish idle for engine warm-up.
4. Increase NG to 70%, Generator switch "ON", monitor NG and ammeter.
5. Ammeter back into green, start second engine.
That's how I recall PHI's checklist, which is/was safest possible in their opinion.
My recollection is that one could start second engine immediately after first was established at idle, battery permitting. If that's the situation, you let each warm up before you advance to 70% NG and bringing each generator on-line.
Kinda hazy on the F2 other than increased MGTO, tens of thousands of starts in the F/F1 (ending 15 years ago) but only a couple dozen F2, something about a completely split electrical bus, with the normal pair of start/gen buttons, but 2 battery switches?
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One of the other pilots told me about the F2;
Battery on, BP on, starter press, T4 < 250 and Ng 15% MODULATE the start, move throttle to idle, 40% starter off, relight off at 60%, gen on, repeat all above second engine.
Is this correct?
Thanks,
Jerry
Battery on, BP on, starter press, T4 < 250 and Ng 15% MODULATE the start, move throttle to idle, 40% starter off, relight off at 60%, gen on, repeat all above second engine.
Is this correct?
Thanks,
Jerry
Nope, Devil 49 has it right.
Hold starter til 58%/60% same as Jet Ranger...
You can Cross generator start on the F2, the F1 requires you to start both engines on batteries.
Cheers
H.
Hold starter til 58%/60% same as Jet Ranger...
You can Cross generator start on the F2, the F1 requires you to start both engines on batteries.
Cheers
H.
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Hi everybody..
As we are talking about the AS355, a friend of mine have got a brend new NP to sale...Whenever it could interest someone, please, let me know ...
All details or information by MP...
Tq and fly safe...
TH
As we are talking about the AS355, a friend of mine have got a brend new NP to sale...Whenever it could interest someone, please, let me know ...
All details or information by MP...
Tq and fly safe...
TH
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Plastic roof lining
How do you stop the plastic roof lining from caving in if you leave the 355 outside say in 100 deg F heat?
Has anyone else faced this problem?
Thanks.
Has anyone else faced this problem?
Thanks.
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FCU problems
Hi there, have any operators of the AS355 F1/F2 been experiencing problems with currently fitted and overhaul FCU’s to the Allison C20?
We are currently experiencing an exceptionally high number of FCU failures resulting in either partial power loss or problems with the start cycle, we have been told that this is currently a worldwide problem and would be interested to hear if other operators of the aircraft type have been experiencing this problem and if so what they considered the actual problem to be caused by and any corrective action they have taken.
We are currently experiencing an exceptionally high number of FCU failures resulting in either partial power loss or problems with the start cycle, we have been told that this is currently a worldwide problem and would be interested to hear if other operators of the aircraft type have been experiencing this problem and if so what they considered the actual problem to be caused by and any corrective action they have taken.