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B206L3 Accident in PNG

Old 25th Apr 2006, 01:12
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Exclamation Update on PNG Pilot

For those of you interested,
Bruce Has been transferred from the hospital in cairns to one in melbourne.
At this stage his condition is serious, but stable, and he is in an induced coma.
For more information please reply to this message.

Thanking you all
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Old 25th Apr 2006, 03:00
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pass on to him there's a lot of us around wishing him a speedy recovery
 
Old 28th Apr 2006, 22:21
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Have any more facts come to light regarding this accident? Were Hevi Lift A/C operations suspended or not? Any update on the pilot's condition?

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Old 3rd May 2006, 00:20
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I am to understand from PNG sources that the investigation into the accident won't be finalized until after the pilot can be interviewed by the investigators. Unfortunately however the pilots current medical condition precludes any interview for the time being, although improvements in his condition are anticipated.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 02:28
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important rules

Terrible for all involved......

Slightly off topic (and not intended to be inflammatory) but I was talking to a senior guy who has spent many years in that part of the world. He mentioned four critical factors (that we are all no doubt aware of) that MUST be considered in remote area operations. These things have kept him alive for over 15 years in PNG.

1 - Light....when will it run out, will you reach your destination??
2 - Fuel.....how much have you got, how much will you need.
3 - Weather..... LOOK, what is it doing now, what is it doing later, when will you turn around??
4 - Limitations....flight manuals are like a PICs bible....read it...believe it

If any two of these are working against you, DO NOT GO.

As mentioned many of you are aware of this already. It is great advice for low time pilots. The toughest part is telling the client no.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 02:48
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If any two of these are working against you, DO NOT GO.
,,,ppfft, I"ll work on any one of these against me thanks.
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Old 3rd May 2006, 07:31
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Flapnfeather, I don’t disagree with the principle you put forward.

However, as I recall life in PNG the first two were sacred…the others were open to negotiation. If it gets dark you land and wait until the morning. I always carried a sleeping bag, water and “anti-mossie spray”. And never go past a gas station without topping up.

The weather was very much ‘what you see is what you get’, forecasts were a luxury. Maybe nowadays with the Internet and satellite weather this has changed but I doubt whether those pics will show if the Tari or Como gap is open or closed.

Flight manuals...well I suppose we had one of those somewhere; I mean we had to have a quick read of it every six months or so before a base check.

The best attribute to have was lots of “native cunning”!

I suspect that none of the above will have had much to do with the sad accident that is the subject of the thread. To those that survived all the best for a speedy recovery, to the family and friends of those that didn’t, you are in my thoughts.

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Old 25th Feb 2020, 20:49
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Sudden fog in PNG

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-...llion/11996176
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Old 25th Feb 2020, 22:45
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The accident was discussed extensively here at the time. Hopefully Hevilift will settle out of court with the pilot and he can move on.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 04:02
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Australian tort laws giving the Americans a run for their money. Hope the pilot can move on, regardless of the lawsuit outcome. Hevilift is one of the better players in PNG.
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Old 26th Feb 2020, 10:55
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Did Hevilift take stock of the judgement and fit all of their helicopters with an instrument cluster and provide IIMC training to all their VFR pilots?
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Old 27th Feb 2020, 04:04
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Originally Posted by flapnfeather View Post
Terrible for all involved......

Slightly off topic (and not intended to be inflammatory) but I was talking to a senior guy who has spent many years in that part of the world. He mentioned four critical factors (that we are all no doubt aware of) that MUST be considered in remote area operations. These things have kept him alive for over 15 years in PNG.

1 - Light....when will it run out, will you reach your destination??
2 - Fuel.....how much have you got, how much will you need.
3 - Weather..... LOOK, what is it doing now, what is it doing later, when will you turn around??
4 - Limitations....flight manuals are like a PICs bible....read it...believe it

If any two of these are working against you, DO NOT GO.

As mentioned many of you are aware of this already. It is great advice for low time pilots. The toughest part is telling the client no.
Any two? Who the hell came up with a risk analysis like that? I’d class that as extremely poor advice for low time pilots.

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Old 27th Feb 2020, 09:53
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Exactly. If you're out of fuel you're out of options. If you're out of light then camping in the bush is your last option. etc.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 10:36
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Hevilift PNG ordered to pay $5.65 mill to pilot

Justice Henry in the Supreme Court, Cairns, has awarded a helicopter pilot $5.65 mill for injury and and cost associated with a helicopter accident back in 2006.
Hevilift PNG to pay up by the 24th April.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 17:30
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Luckily not 14 years for compensation to be paid.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 19:46
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You don't mention the incident but I suspect the award will be an insurance liability, not operator liability?
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 21:21
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This was the accident that left BT in a wheelchair?
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 22:29
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Yes, it's the BT Jet Ranger accident...
The Court transcript is available for download, I can't get the PDF to attach to the thread.

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Old 15th Apr 2020, 23:46
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Here is the link:

https://www.queenslandjudgments.com....load/id/343967
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Old 16th Apr 2020, 00:20
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The costs hearing is on 24 April 2020. That will also be a big number (in addition to the damages awarded).
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