Running deisel vehical on Jet A1
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: New Zealand
On a slightly different note what about running AVGAS 100/130 in your car?
I have been putting in my car for a while but mixing 50/50 or near that.
I was told it is ok but that you should mix with MOGAS.
I haven't had any problems but curious for opinions on why you should mix it???
Crispy
I have been putting in my car for a while but mixing 50/50 or near that.
I was told it is ok but that you should mix with MOGAS.
I haven't had any problems but curious for opinions on why you should mix it???
Crispy
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A really great way to kill your catalytic converter, if you haven't already done so!!AVGAS LL might say "Low Lead" on the tin - but it contains a lot more lead (TEL) than old leaded car fuel ever did!
If your car needs a very high octane fuel to counter "pinking" (pinging if you are west of the Atlantic) and has no catalytic converter, it is useable, as some amateur racers do.
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From: England
I have a friend, who brought a diesel engined van, which had been run on "chip fat" used chip fat at that, it stunk, not only inside, but driving behind it also.
I do know, that, the ministry regulary check LGV vehicles at weigh bridges, and dip everyone,
Should you be found to be running on illegal diesel, your vehicle gets impounded, they work out how long you have owned it, calculate the mileage, from previous keeper, then assume you have always been cheating the system, so you owe them all that calculated back tax,
Usually more than the vehicles worth, unless its a Tractor Unit.
Not worth it, in my humble opinion
Oh the chip fat van took a new set of injectors, and a right thrashing to rid itself of it
I do know, that, the ministry regulary check LGV vehicles at weigh bridges, and dip everyone,
Should you be found to be running on illegal diesel, your vehicle gets impounded, they work out how long you have owned it, calculate the mileage, from previous keeper, then assume you have always been cheating the system, so you owe them all that calculated back tax,
Usually more than the vehicles worth, unless its a Tractor Unit.
Not worth it, in my humble opinion
Oh the chip fat van took a new set of injectors, and a right thrashing to rid itself of it
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: US
When I used to be a fueler, we usually had sumped Jet-A in the Diesel truck and sumped 100LL in the others. They were all fords and I never heard of or experienced a problem. Im not sure why you would be more concerned over water in Jet-A than regular diesel, I've seen it in both and imagine that either way would be bad. I usually poured the Jet-A into a 5 gallon bucket first and looked to check for anything and then poured it in through a funnel.
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From: usa
how much 2stroke
5-8 percent of 2 stroke is plenty.By the cheapest stuff you can get. It will still do the job. I would stay away from sump oil, gear oil regular motor oil and sawchain oil
. It is not made to burn together with fuel, or burn at all. This can cause more friction, than lubrication of the combustion cycle. 2 stroke oil will allso lube the injectors with minimum polutants.
When it comes to water contamination its not a bigger problem with Ja1 than normal diesel. Same outcome will exist with water in the system, filter clogs with water and engine stops.
Fuel tanks on diesel cars most often have a "sump" where water can accumulate and not go to the engine.
Remember you can mix it with some normal diesel to.
In cold weather areas the sell what they call "winter diesel". This is because diesel freezes bellow -15 celsius. "Winter diesel" is normal diesel mixed with kerosene to lower the fresing temp. Kerosene=jet a1
If you want to use jet a1 on a new complex turbo/HDI diesel engine id go 50\50 with diesel just to be safe. I do however, know i guy how runs a fairly new Mercedes with HDI engine on Jet A1+ 2stroke with no problem.
. It is not made to burn together with fuel, or burn at all. This can cause more friction, than lubrication of the combustion cycle. 2 stroke oil will allso lube the injectors with minimum polutants.When it comes to water contamination its not a bigger problem with Ja1 than normal diesel. Same outcome will exist with water in the system, filter clogs with water and engine stops.
Fuel tanks on diesel cars most often have a "sump" where water can accumulate and not go to the engine.
Remember you can mix it with some normal diesel to.
In cold weather areas the sell what they call "winter diesel". This is because diesel freezes bellow -15 celsius. "Winter diesel" is normal diesel mixed with kerosene to lower the fresing temp. Kerosene=jet a1
If you want to use jet a1 on a new complex turbo/HDI diesel engine id go 50\50 with diesel just to be safe. I do however, know i guy how runs a fairly new Mercedes with HDI engine on Jet A1+ 2stroke with no problem.


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From: Somewhere very sunny !
One of our company engineers runs his old Pugot on Jet A1, He puts £5 of normal pump diesel in his tank then tops it up with jet A1, he says it runs just fine but in town it does run hot. He had to do a rad flush first. He also carries a half used bottle of injector cleaner in the glove box in case the boys in blue get sus about the odd smell from the back end. Good luck to him !





