The new Robinson R88!
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Quality indeed but, as I've said before, quality doesn't come cheap. However, there are a number of very competitive financing options which I am more than happy to discuss.
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Whirls
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Whirls
Hovering AND talking
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
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From: uk
Capt Hollywood - Sifting through the spec of this creation I see that the desired configuration includes;- Multipilot training, Gunship or perhaps I ought to rephrase this as a Hunter Killer, Slung loader, Winch, police and SAR versions and IFR. The corporate world has not shown anything but a fleeting interest. Why is this?
My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets says he'd be really interested if it had bigger doors, flight steps, leather seats, aircon, multiplex video telecom imaging and space for a attractive flight attendant. For the latter he could be persuaded to part with some of the contents of his pockets. For the former, he needs a breakdown of costs so that he can reclaim tax and apply for grants.
Beteen you and me, he's really keen on owning one and because he is always looking at 'image', he'd like the first production model.
Lovely photo of the R88. Have the skids fallen off?
Any data yet on the Vne?
My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets says he'd be really interested if it had bigger doors, flight steps, leather seats, aircon, multiplex video telecom imaging and space for a attractive flight attendant. For the latter he could be persuaded to part with some of the contents of his pockets. For the former, he needs a breakdown of costs so that he can reclaim tax and apply for grants.
Beteen you and me, he's really keen on owning one and because he is always looking at 'image', he'd like the first production model.
Lovely photo of the R88. Have the skids fallen off?
Any data yet on the Vne?
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From: West Africa
Capt Hollywood & Whirlygig,
Before my 7 units go into production I would request that high lift skids are common to all 7.
Also request the all seeing eye ( as found on Kiowas, Blackhawks & the like ), for my night operations and as the county side here is all so hilly and being a sneaky bastard is a must.
And would require the helmet motion tracking system to be hooked to a Dillion M134 under chin.
Rocket pods would be considered depending on types available
Also seats need to be able to be removed quickly to convert into other configs, ( also exec ).
Anti heat seeking Chaff ( phospherous) systems
Can you confirm if the rumor is true that a J.A.T.O unit is being trialed at present for high performance take offs when M.T.O.W's are on outter margins?
Additional fuel bladders?
I will be incontact with you as soon as my collegues have decided on the final configs/options the A/C is available.
Please provide designs/photographs with the options I have requested ( time permitting)
Thank you & I look forward to your early reply.
Best regards,
HF
Before my 7 units go into production I would request that high lift skids are common to all 7.
Also request the all seeing eye ( as found on Kiowas, Blackhawks & the like ), for my night operations and as the county side here is all so hilly and being a sneaky bastard is a must.
And would require the helmet motion tracking system to be hooked to a Dillion M134 under chin.
Rocket pods would be considered depending on types available
Also seats need to be able to be removed quickly to convert into other configs, ( also exec ).
Anti heat seeking Chaff ( phospherous) systems
Can you confirm if the rumor is true that a J.A.T.O unit is being trialed at present for high performance take offs when M.T.O.W's are on outter margins?
Additional fuel bladders?
I will be incontact with you as soon as my collegues have decided on the final configs/options the A/C is available.
Please provide designs/photographs with the options I have requested ( time permitting)
Thank you & I look forward to your early reply.
Best regards,
HF
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I'll get me coat......
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From: Gold Coast, Australia.
Headturner,
Unfortunately the corporate world is fixated on image. The designers of the R88 have attempted to address this concern by introducing the sleek lines you see on the R88. Naturally it will take time for the flying public to embrace such radical thinking but in the end the R88, much like the rest of the Robinson range, will be judged by it's functionality, not it's looks!
And of course the skids haven't fallen off, the undercarriage is retracted.
Preliminary testing has shown the VNE to be beyond initial expectations. We anticipate the published VNE to meet projected guesstimates, somewhere around 185kts.
CH
Unfortunately the corporate world is fixated on image. The designers of the R88 have attempted to address this concern by introducing the sleek lines you see on the R88. Naturally it will take time for the flying public to embrace such radical thinking but in the end the R88, much like the rest of the Robinson range, will be judged by it's functionality, not it's looks!
And of course the skids haven't fallen off, the undercarriage is retracted.
Preliminary testing has shown the VNE to be beyond initial expectations. We anticipate the published VNE to meet projected guesstimates, somewhere around 185kts.
CH
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From: Sydney
Oz R88 agency
An R88 in Oz! Why wasn't I told? I'll have the Australian franchise thanks. We'll have two machines on loan for starters. One for demos & the other one for stock so the sales team can say stuff like, "No you can't have it, its the last one in stock & someone might want it"
We'll be needing long range tanks so we can sell the thing for coastal surveilance (10 hour loitering time waiting for ships gridlocked at inadequate port facilities), an approved anti-terrorist no-theft locking device (keyed fuel caps?) and self shortening blades (that automatically retract if the pilot tries to hover in overly confined areas).
Please advise deposit amount & delivery delay on first hundred units.
We'll be needing long range tanks so we can sell the thing for coastal surveilance (10 hour loitering time waiting for ships gridlocked at inadequate port facilities), an approved anti-terrorist no-theft locking device (keyed fuel caps?) and self shortening blades (that automatically retract if the pilot tries to hover in overly confined areas).
Please advise deposit amount & delivery delay on first hundred units.
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I'll get me coat......
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From: Gold Coast, Australia.
In response to HELOFAN's query I can confirm one of the prototype aircraft is being used as a testbed for a proposed JATO option.
CH
CH
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From: Australia
Capn H
I couldn't see the nose for the hat with long hair?
but I note that as the fuse nearly always repesents more drag than thrust - unless whole a/c is seriously downhill or power is inadvertantly switched off, and I also note that the test pilot has compensated for the extra thrust with increased M/R pitch, do you think it advisable to have a fuse pitching moment set of vector rockets such as in the space shuttle to overide any adverse feed back cyclic pitching moments into the rotor system?
tet
I couldn't see the nose for the hat with long hair?
but I note that as the fuse nearly always repesents more drag than thrust - unless whole a/c is seriously downhill or power is inadvertantly switched off, and I also note that the test pilot has compensated for the extra thrust with increased M/R pitch, do you think it advisable to have a fuse pitching moment set of vector rockets such as in the space shuttle to overide any adverse feed back cyclic pitching moments into the rotor system?
tet
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I'll get me coat......
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From: Gold Coast, Australia.
TET,
Thankyou for your comments/suggestions, I have passed them on to the test pilots. As this is an experimental prototype there are bound to be some unusual attitudes, etc as we refine the design during the test program. The variety of small changes made during a test program are evident in the various of images of slightly modified S92's in the "Rotorheads around the World" thread.
See here : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...76347&page=119
CH
Thankyou for your comments/suggestions, I have passed them on to the test pilots. As this is an experimental prototype there are bound to be some unusual attitudes, etc as we refine the design during the test program. The variety of small changes made during a test program are evident in the various of images of slightly modified S92's in the "Rotorheads around the World" thread.
See here : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...76347&page=119
CH
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From: In the air with luck
Enquirey
Dut to never wanted to fly a Robinson product i am encouraged that there are intrepid aviators out there who will order a NEW R88Mk.???? .
The skinflint with bulging pockets seems to be a skid kicker rather than a serious buyer.
My boss the owner of a large helio Co. (and late fortune) requires fixed price with all gismos and finance over the life of the Company cat as this animal was the recipient of all the money from the last Scam .
Presume the Licosorus in back runs the jac
ousi bubble maker
The skinflint with bulging pockets seems to be a skid kicker rather than a serious buyer.
My boss the owner of a large helio Co. (and late fortune) requires fixed price with all gismos and finance over the life of the Company cat as this animal was the recipient of all the money from the last Scam .
Presume the Licosorus in back runs the jac
ousi bubble maker
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I'll get me coat......
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From: Gold Coast, Australia.
Please direct all financial queries to our financial dept. All financial matters, including pricing and finance options are being handled by the department head, Whirlygig.
CH
CH
new robbo
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From: West Africa
I am sold.
What impresses me the most, more than the versatility of this helicopter, or its good looks or even the running costs ( I hear they are very reasonable ) is the ability of the designers to respond to the customers needs almost over night.
Well done Capt HollyWood & all the designers, engineers & the whole
R88 Team ( you know who you are ).
I think we have seen the future.
What impresses me the most, more than the versatility of this helicopter, or its good looks or even the running costs ( I hear they are very reasonable ) is the ability of the designers to respond to the customers needs almost over night.
Well done Capt HollyWood & all the designers, engineers & the whole
R88 Team ( you know who you are ).
I think we have seen the future.