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I have a few mates in Canada now working and this is the standard pay scale for over 5000hrs
base salary $3500 per month Cad
Flight Pay $50.00 the average phr
per diems $35.00 pd average
Crew houses FREE
Transport FREE
Flights FREE
Some even pay you for flight training and NON rev work
now why would a aussie stay home.....???????
australia can not boast about the growth or improvement it is years behind and soon there willl be no experiance left in the country to pass on knowledge to younger guys which inturn creates more risk in the work inviroment.........and for you engineers (whingengineers) find another site to cry on about pilots!!!
base salary $3500 per month Cad
Flight Pay $50.00 the average phr
per diems $35.00 pd average
Crew houses FREE
Transport FREE
Flights FREE
Some even pay you for flight training and NON rev work
now why would a aussie stay home.....???????
australia can not boast about the growth or improvement it is years behind and soon there willl be no experiance left in the country to pass on knowledge to younger guys which inturn creates more risk in the work inviroment.........and for you engineers (whingengineers) find another site to cry on about pilots!!!
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Gymble they didnt give you a car because you dont know how to spel or use punctuation and anyway you are the biggest australian whinger ever to grace this forum you are almost as bad as pprune fan #1 with your attacks on engineers and crewmen it must be your hobby to take potshots at anything that raises its head and another reason they didnt give you a car to get to work is that they dont really want you to turn up you dag.
Give it a rest Gymble. All you do is upset the minority of readers who can't see that you're taking the piss and bore the rest of us who can.
Rob, thanks for the info and for your efforts on behalf of the industry. Sorry to hijack your topic but I\'m not the first so here goes.
Just Another Trick, what a delight you must be to work with. Just to summarise your beliefs (without the spelling mistakes):
pilots have attractive rosters, guaranteed days off and better pay
pilots find their way to the head of helicopter companies
pilots have time on their hands
pilots can focus on company requirements during their down time
pilots have a good operational understanding of the company business
some pilots can\'t find their helicopter each day, or operate it safely
pilots cannot make the connection between good engineering and safety
pilots have achieved improvements - but only for themselves
pilots are stupid
engineers are frustrated because they have evidence that most pilots are stupid
engineers are gathering "substantiative" evidence of pilot stupidity on a daily basis
engineers became engineers by accident, because their girlfriends got pregnant or because they were in the wrong place
engineers have no career path
engineers have low pay
engineers are fools for working long hours
Yeah, easy to see how you concluded that PILOTS are stupid.
Mate, in all seriousness I sympathise with your position - I wouldn\'t want to be an engineer for anything, but I don\'t see how criticising pilots and generalising about their situation is going to gain you any support in the industry - except from other engineers maybe. If it\'s so bloody dreadful being an engineer and so wonderful being a pilot, go get yourself a pilot\'s licence.
Rob, thanks for the info and for your efforts on behalf of the industry. Sorry to hijack your topic but I\'m not the first so here goes.
Just Another Trick, what a delight you must be to work with. Just to summarise your beliefs (without the spelling mistakes):
pilots have attractive rosters, guaranteed days off and better pay
pilots find their way to the head of helicopter companies
pilots have time on their hands
pilots can focus on company requirements during their down time
pilots have a good operational understanding of the company business
some pilots can\'t find their helicopter each day, or operate it safely
pilots cannot make the connection between good engineering and safety
pilots have achieved improvements - but only for themselves
pilots are stupid
engineers are frustrated because they have evidence that most pilots are stupid
engineers are gathering "substantiative" evidence of pilot stupidity on a daily basis
engineers became engineers by accident, because their girlfriends got pregnant or because they were in the wrong place
engineers have no career path
engineers have low pay
engineers are fools for working long hours
Yeah, easy to see how you concluded that PILOTS are stupid.
Mate, in all seriousness I sympathise with your position - I wouldn\'t want to be an engineer for anything, but I don\'t see how criticising pilots and generalising about their situation is going to gain you any support in the industry - except from other engineers maybe. If it\'s so bloody dreadful being an engineer and so wonderful being a pilot, go get yourself a pilot\'s licence.
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Rob,
Thanks for the info. I don't envy your position as the spokesman for the association that tries to further the cause of rotary wing aviation in Australia. You'll always get the knockers... just let it be water of the duck's back.
It's good to get a cross sectional view of the industry in Australia so people can see where they should spend their money. It's no use getting an endorsement on an aircraft that's not well represented in the industry.
Even in my short 12 years flying I have seen the RW industry grow tremendously in this country, thanks to those with positive outlooks and with a genuine wish to make it better, safer and more efficient/cost effective. If we can band together rather than squabble amongst ourselves, maybe we can make our conditions better.
Short of forming a RW union (no red raggers here, thanks), an association that furthers the cause is the next best thing.
Keep it coming, Rob
Thanks for the info. I don't envy your position as the spokesman for the association that tries to further the cause of rotary wing aviation in Australia. You'll always get the knockers... just let it be water of the duck's back.
It's good to get a cross sectional view of the industry in Australia so people can see where they should spend their money. It's no use getting an endorsement on an aircraft that's not well represented in the industry.
Even in my short 12 years flying I have seen the RW industry grow tremendously in this country, thanks to those with positive outlooks and with a genuine wish to make it better, safer and more efficient/cost effective. If we can band together rather than squabble amongst ourselves, maybe we can make our conditions better.
Short of forming a RW union (no red raggers here, thanks), an association that furthers the cause is the next best thing.
Keep it coming, Rob
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Thanks Rob,
Great news.
To you engineers and grumblers one of the points raised by Rob refers to low hour pilots. You cannot rise within the industry until you get a job. The hardest part of being a pilot within this industry is actually getting the chance to get into it. I know more unemployed low hour pilots than I do employed pilots. Can you say the same of people who wish to be engineers within the industry?
To get your first break you need to bust your butt making contacts, visiting potential employers and just trying to get ahead of the other 50 pilots who qualified at the same time you did. And not only that to contend with the insurance companies want to keep you grounded also.
I applaud Rob and continue to stand by him and the HAA for the awareness they are bringing to the industry. I love flying and will continue to bust my butt to find my break within the industry.
Nice one Rob - keep up the good work
Great news.
To you engineers and grumblers one of the points raised by Rob refers to low hour pilots. You cannot rise within the industry until you get a job. The hardest part of being a pilot within this industry is actually getting the chance to get into it. I know more unemployed low hour pilots than I do employed pilots. Can you say the same of people who wish to be engineers within the industry?
To get your first break you need to bust your butt making contacts, visiting potential employers and just trying to get ahead of the other 50 pilots who qualified at the same time you did. And not only that to contend with the insurance companies want to keep you grounded also.
I applaud Rob and continue to stand by him and the HAA for the awareness they are bringing to the industry. I love flying and will continue to bust my butt to find my break within the industry.
Nice one Rob - keep up the good work
Last months figures are now out
Guys and gals, thanks guys for the support.
We do this stuff to help, not attract abuse from those who should really go off and watch TV with a cool beer or a hot partner!
Please keep your sense of humour.
Anyhow, from the 18 April to 16 May 2005 Australia had eleven additions to the CASA register. They were: R22 (8), OH-58A (2) and AS350 (1). A total of eleven.
As we lost two EC120 to Japan, thus our total gain was nine which is 2.25 new helos per week. This is slightly above the eighteen month average which is about two new helicopters appearing each week.
The great news is that not one machine was taken off due to a prang!
Will have the NZ monthly summary in a few days.
We do this stuff to help, not attract abuse from those who should really go off and watch TV with a cool beer or a hot partner!
Please keep your sense of humour.
Anyhow, from the 18 April to 16 May 2005 Australia had eleven additions to the CASA register. They were: R22 (8), OH-58A (2) and AS350 (1). A total of eleven.
As we lost two EC120 to Japan, thus our total gain was nine which is 2.25 new helos per week. This is slightly above the eighteen month average which is about two new helicopters appearing each week.
The great news is that not one machine was taken off due to a prang!
Will have the NZ monthly summary in a few days.
Estimated jobs in the next five years
Hay guys get are spel chexer.
What about jobs in OZ?
Based on the fact we grew from 649 a decade ago to 1,206 today then we should see our fleet grow to about 1,780 machines in 2009. An increase of about 575, or an extra 100 helicopters per year. Assuming a working helicopter flies 400 hours per year, they will fly 230,000 hours more in five years than today.
Once again using raw data, and assuming a pilot flies 450 hours per year, we will need an extra 515 pilots.
Now there is another factor: old farts ….ageing ……baby boomers …… grandkids…..
These are guesses only. If we had a uniform “pyramid” of pilots ages then taking the average working life of a pilot as 30 years, about 3% retired each year. Add to that another 8% who go find another job or become sick, then in a static population you have about 11% or more who drop out each year. (My guess is 15%.)
But the fleet is expanding at almost 8% (compound interest calculation?)
Now take the 11% dropping away and add the growth 8% then the active pilot group must get fresh blood at the rate of 19% each year to keep bums on seats.
Problem. We have the Viet Vets almost gone, and now baby boomers who are giving it away. CASA suggests the average of a pilot is in late forties, and engineers even higher, due to shortages in the young people. This causes a bulge in the pyramid.
This causes another shortage as the bulge passes away into retirement. (Bran flakes?)
Today, the mustering operators are saying they are losing their experienced pilots to the turbine operators, and are seeing a wave of low hour pilots heading their way.
Which is why we need to find an easier path for the new guys to get that first job; which was the reason for these posts in the beginning.
Can someone update these thoughts?
What about jobs in OZ?
Based on the fact we grew from 649 a decade ago to 1,206 today then we should see our fleet grow to about 1,780 machines in 2009. An increase of about 575, or an extra 100 helicopters per year. Assuming a working helicopter flies 400 hours per year, they will fly 230,000 hours more in five years than today.
Once again using raw data, and assuming a pilot flies 450 hours per year, we will need an extra 515 pilots.
Now there is another factor: old farts ….ageing ……baby boomers …… grandkids…..
These are guesses only. If we had a uniform “pyramid” of pilots ages then taking the average working life of a pilot as 30 years, about 3% retired each year. Add to that another 8% who go find another job or become sick, then in a static population you have about 11% or more who drop out each year. (My guess is 15%.)
But the fleet is expanding at almost 8% (compound interest calculation?)
Now take the 11% dropping away and add the growth 8% then the active pilot group must get fresh blood at the rate of 19% each year to keep bums on seats.
Problem. We have the Viet Vets almost gone, and now baby boomers who are giving it away. CASA suggests the average of a pilot is in late forties, and engineers even higher, due to shortages in the young people. This causes a bulge in the pyramid.
This causes another shortage as the bulge passes away into retirement. (Bran flakes?)
Today, the mustering operators are saying they are losing their experienced pilots to the turbine operators, and are seeing a wave of low hour pilots heading their way.
Which is why we need to find an easier path for the new guys to get that first job; which was the reason for these posts in the beginning.
Can someone update these thoughts?
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Cue Dave Jackson stage left, with his easy-to-learn-cheap-to-operate training helicopter to make it easier to get started.
Cue peals of laughter from insurance companies at the suggestion that low hour pilots are safer overall and therefore premiums should be lower.
Cue same peals of laughter from Human Resources people who still want minimum of the magic "1000 hours" as if it's some sort of talisman to protect them from mishaps.
Just on another note, Rob, how many of those are estimated to be privately owned and operated? See, you're talking about all these new helicopters and needing pilots to operate them ... but take out the number of helicopters being bought BY the pilots who will operate them (and be the only one flying it), and you've got a statistically significant reduction in the "demand for more pilots" argument. Unless all the privately bought helicopters are being bought by people who will employ a CPL chauffeur, I can't see the picture being as rosy as you've painted it.
Cue peals of laughter from insurance companies at the suggestion that low hour pilots are safer overall and therefore premiums should be lower.
Cue same peals of laughter from Human Resources people who still want minimum of the magic "1000 hours" as if it's some sort of talisman to protect them from mishaps.
Just on another note, Rob, how many of those are estimated to be privately owned and operated? See, you're talking about all these new helicopters and needing pilots to operate them ... but take out the number of helicopters being bought BY the pilots who will operate them (and be the only one flying it), and you've got a statistically significant reduction in the "demand for more pilots" argument. Unless all the privately bought helicopters are being bought by people who will employ a CPL chauffeur, I can't see the picture being as rosy as you've painted it.
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Some more statistics.
I'm tired. For a couple of years I've been blaming it on iron-poor blood, lack of vitamins, dieting, and a dozen other maladies. But now I found out the real reason: I'm tired because I'm overworked.
The population of the USA is 237 million. 104 million are retired. That leaves 133 million to do the work.
There are 85 million in school, which leave 48 million to do the work.
Of this, there are 29 million employed by the federal government. This leaves 19 million to do the work.
Four million are in the Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to do the work.
Take from the total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and City government and that leaves 200,000 to do the work.
There are 188,000 in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to do the work.
Now, there are 11,998 people in Prisons. That leaves just two people to do the work.
You and me.
And you're wasting your time reading this.
No wonder I'm tired; I'm the only one working.
The population of the USA is 237 million. 104 million are retired. That leaves 133 million to do the work.
There are 85 million in school, which leave 48 million to do the work.
Of this, there are 29 million employed by the federal government. This leaves 19 million to do the work.
Four million are in the Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to do the work.
Take from the total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and City government and that leaves 200,000 to do the work.
There are 188,000 in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to do the work.
Now, there are 11,998 people in Prisons. That leaves just two people to do the work.
You and me.
And you're wasting your time reading this.
No wonder I'm tired; I'm the only one working.
Seventeen good jobs in Adelaide
Australian Helicopters has just released a media statement as follows:
Media Release
May 2005
Australian Helicopters has begun a recruitment drive, as it gears up to begin operating the Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in December. Already the largest Australian owned helicopter operator in the country, the company is now seeking to fill 17 new positions based in Adelaide.
Australian Helicopters General Manager David Anderson said the move signalled a new phase in the company’s growth. “By the end of this year, Australian Helicopters will have more than 100 staff at nine bases around the country,” Mr Anderson said.
“We will also be increasing our fleet of helicopters to 26 to manage the increasing workload.” Under its contract with the South Australian Government, Australian Helicopters will provide three helicopters year-round to help with emergency medical evacuations, rescues, police patrols and fire fighting.
In the coming bushfire season, the company will provide a fourth aircraft with the capacity to water bomb 1,000 litres of water. The 7-year deal is worth an estimated $52 million dollars.
To carry out the work the company is now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Australian Helicopters is also building life-sized mock-ups of the interiors of the three helicopters to be permanently based in Adelaide, to allow the medical and rescue officers, police and fire fighters who will use the aircraft to contribute ideas on the most effective layout.
Mr Anderson said this was an innovative requirement of the company’s contract with the South Australian government. “I don’t know that any other civil helicopter contract has required this degree of input into the technical design phase,” Mr Anderson said.
“But Australian Helicopters is happy to comply because we know from experience that every second counts in an emergency response situation and we want to make sure that the interior layout of our aircraft contributes to the goal of saving time and saving lives.”
Australian Helicopters is also planning to start work next month on building a new $1.6 million headquarters for its Adelaide operation. The headquarters will include a hangar for four aircraft, refuelling facilities, an on-site office and accommodation for duty crews.
It will be located at the newly developed Adelaide airport helicopter precinct, where Australian Helicopters will be the first company to take up occupancy.
The helicopters to be permanently based there include a Bell 412, a BK117 and an EC130. The fourth helicopter to be used during the bushfire season will be an AS350 B3 Firebomber.
For further information or to arrange interviews, please contact Melanie Christiansen, at Sequel Communications, on +61 7 3251 8133 or +61 438.500 412.
END.
PS: Hey, mustering guru - we are a lucky country. Australian Helicopters is wholly Australian owned.
See if you can bag this one?
Media Release
May 2005
Australian Helicopters has begun a recruitment drive, as it gears up to begin operating the Adelaide Bank Rescue Helicopter Service in December. Already the largest Australian owned helicopter operator in the country, the company is now seeking to fill 17 new positions based in Adelaide.
Australian Helicopters General Manager David Anderson said the move signalled a new phase in the company’s growth. “By the end of this year, Australian Helicopters will have more than 100 staff at nine bases around the country,” Mr Anderson said.
“We will also be increasing our fleet of helicopters to 26 to manage the increasing workload.” Under its contract with the South Australian Government, Australian Helicopters will provide three helicopters year-round to help with emergency medical evacuations, rescues, police patrols and fire fighting.
In the coming bushfire season, the company will provide a fourth aircraft with the capacity to water bomb 1,000 litres of water. The 7-year deal is worth an estimated $52 million dollars.
To carry out the work the company is now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Australian Helicopters is also building life-sized mock-ups of the interiors of the three helicopters to be permanently based in Adelaide, to allow the medical and rescue officers, police and fire fighters who will use the aircraft to contribute ideas on the most effective layout.
Mr Anderson said this was an innovative requirement of the company’s contract with the South Australian government. “I don’t know that any other civil helicopter contract has required this degree of input into the technical design phase,” Mr Anderson said.
“But Australian Helicopters is happy to comply because we know from experience that every second counts in an emergency response situation and we want to make sure that the interior layout of our aircraft contributes to the goal of saving time and saving lives.”
Australian Helicopters is also planning to start work next month on building a new $1.6 million headquarters for its Adelaide operation. The headquarters will include a hangar for four aircraft, refuelling facilities, an on-site office and accommodation for duty crews.
It will be located at the newly developed Adelaide airport helicopter precinct, where Australian Helicopters will be the first company to take up occupancy.
The helicopters to be permanently based there include a Bell 412, a BK117 and an EC130. The fourth helicopter to be used during the bushfire season will be an AS350 B3 Firebomber.
For further information or to arrange interviews, please contact Melanie Christiansen, at Sequel Communications, on +61 7 3251 8133 or +61 438.500 412.
END.
PS: Hey, mustering guru - we are a lucky country. Australian Helicopters is wholly Australian owned.
See if you can bag this one?
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hard info on industry activity
All,
there is a new report out produced by BTRE on the state of play in all the GA operations. Parts are worth reading if you are considering career decisions.
Formal name
Report 111
General Aviation : an industry overview.
www.btre.gov.au
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there is a new report out produced by BTRE on the state of play in all the GA operations. Parts are worth reading if you are considering career decisions.
Formal name
Report 111
General Aviation : an industry overview.
www.btre.gov.au
The Eye
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catseye,
interesting statistics on that site, all sectors of general aviation on the decrease except for flying training.
more pilots less hours.
if all the current helicopter pilot licence holders in australia were to be employed till they are all used up the training industry could shut down for about ten years.
in flying training in australia we turn over the equivalent of our working pilots every four years.
casa's web site, under statistics, has the current commercial pilots with medicals as under 900. private 600 and some atpl's
of those pilots, 200 were licenced in the past two years.
the numbers are kept around that total by schools putting out 200+ each year.
this number also includes foreign students issued with australian certificates who have since gone home, most never to fly professionally ever, unfortunately.
i have seen very few new machines delivered to commerial operators over the last 10 years.
the private sector is catching up in numbers and seems to be the only part of the industry that can afford new machinery.
it will be fantastic if the projections are realised, jobs for all, utopia. lets hope.
interesting statistics on that site, all sectors of general aviation on the decrease except for flying training.
more pilots less hours.
if all the current helicopter pilot licence holders in australia were to be employed till they are all used up the training industry could shut down for about ten years.
in flying training in australia we turn over the equivalent of our working pilots every four years.
casa's web site, under statistics, has the current commercial pilots with medicals as under 900. private 600 and some atpl's
of those pilots, 200 were licenced in the past two years.
the numbers are kept around that total by schools putting out 200+ each year.
this number also includes foreign students issued with australian certificates who have since gone home, most never to fly professionally ever, unfortunately.
i have seen very few new machines delivered to commerial operators over the last 10 years.
the private sector is catching up in numbers and seems to be the only part of the industry that can afford new machinery.
it will be fantastic if the projections are realised, jobs for all, utopia. lets hope.
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now advertising for seven pilots, seven crew and three engineers. The pilots must have experience in multi-engine, single pilot instrument flight rules and night flying.
Wonder how much they plan on paying this miracle seven?
Two possibles i've heard of , Australian Helicopters for the SA govt. contract or a machine for Customs/Coast watch (Not Australian Helicopters!).
Whoever it's for the AB will catch them out the Italians change lots of little things on there helo's , in the Hyd, Fuel systems etc what may fit your B412 may not fit the AB 412 operating next to it! Found this out the hard way in Norway and mid east operating mixed fleets. Also the Italian IPC's and MM are not the same as the Bell ones and in some areas leave a bit to be desired!!
Whoever it's for the AB will catch them out the Italians change lots of little things on there helo's , in the Hyd, Fuel systems etc what may fit your B412 may not fit the AB 412 operating next to it! Found this out the hard way in Norway and mid east operating mixed fleets. Also the Italian IPC's and MM are not the same as the Bell ones and in some areas leave a bit to be desired!!
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Mmmmm ....
and if the sucker is not modified with the EPs DF engines and transmission mods its gunna have some performance restrictions particularly with OEI flight ...
good luck chaps ...
and if the sucker is not modified with the EPs DF engines and transmission mods its gunna have some performance restrictions particularly with OEI flight ...
good luck chaps ...
Australasian updates - news still good
Australia - Year to 12 Jun ’05.
Since January the fleet has grown from 1192 to 1237, an increase of 45 helicopters. The growth over 23 weeks is about two new helicopters on the Register each week. This is a slight increase in the growth rate from 7.8% to 8.55%, bringing it up to the average of the past twelve months. At this rate of increase there will be extra 102 helicopters on the Register by 31 December, or another 120 jobs by this growth alone, plus normal attrition.
New Zealand – Year to 31 May ‘05
Since January the fleet has grown from 597 helicopters to 613, an increase of 16 helicopters. The growth over 21 weeks is 16 helicopters or 0.76 new helicopters on the Register per week. This is a slight decrease in the growth rate from over 8% to 6.64%. It is also below the growth rate over the past twelve months. At this rate of growth there will be an extra 40 machines on the Register by 31 December, or another 48 jobs, plus those created by normal attrition.
Outlook: The helicopter industry is in a very healthy state. Most distributors indicate that delays on the production lines, due to a world wide strong demand, has slowed deliveries in Australasia. Had stock been available, the above figures would have been higher.
From 17 May – 12 Jun ‘05
Who bought what – Australia
R22 – 5, R44 – 4. One each of Bell 47, Bell 206, Bell 427 and Schweizer 269.
Who bought what – New Zealand
R22 – 3. One each of AS350 and Hughes 500.
Hope this helps the job hunters, or maybe the dealers. If you want the list of new owners, then PM me for a listing from 17 May -12 Jun ’05. Just happy to help out.
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
Since January the fleet has grown from 1192 to 1237, an increase of 45 helicopters. The growth over 23 weeks is about two new helicopters on the Register each week. This is a slight increase in the growth rate from 7.8% to 8.55%, bringing it up to the average of the past twelve months. At this rate of increase there will be extra 102 helicopters on the Register by 31 December, or another 120 jobs by this growth alone, plus normal attrition.
New Zealand – Year to 31 May ‘05
Since January the fleet has grown from 597 helicopters to 613, an increase of 16 helicopters. The growth over 21 weeks is 16 helicopters or 0.76 new helicopters on the Register per week. This is a slight decrease in the growth rate from over 8% to 6.64%. It is also below the growth rate over the past twelve months. At this rate of growth there will be an extra 40 machines on the Register by 31 December, or another 48 jobs, plus those created by normal attrition.
Outlook: The helicopter industry is in a very healthy state. Most distributors indicate that delays on the production lines, due to a world wide strong demand, has slowed deliveries in Australasia. Had stock been available, the above figures would have been higher.
From 17 May – 12 Jun ‘05
Who bought what – Australia
R22 – 5, R44 – 4. One each of Bell 47, Bell 206, Bell 427 and Schweizer 269.
Who bought what – New Zealand
R22 – 3. One each of AS350 and Hughes 500.
Hope this helps the job hunters, or maybe the dealers. If you want the list of new owners, then PM me for a listing from 17 May -12 Jun ’05. Just happy to help out.
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
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I heard Aero pwr were ok but hard work sometimes working away from base for a bit, which would suit you and with all your H500 time. (does this guy know me
) the pay is ok. My CFI used to work for them for quite a while actually had nothing bad to say about them. I will get a reference for you and/or find out some more.
How are the chicks were you are dude?? in your element
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I heard Aero pwr were ok but hard work sometimes working away from base for a bit, which would suit you and with all your H500 time. (does this guy know me
) the pay is ok. My CFI used to work for them for quite a while actually had nothing bad to say about them. I will get a reference for you and/or find out some more.How are the chicks were you are dude?? in your element
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Australasian updates – addendum.
In order to help job seekers, a couple of posts ago I gave an update for the 17 May – 12 Jun ’05 in Australia and New Zealand. I forgot to mention an important point for industry watchers.
Those who are watching where their next job comes from need to be aware of another set of figures. Increase in fleet size is one thing; but a lot of machines are bought and sold in the reporting period; these figures do not change the fleet size.
Much like buying a second hand car where you live, numbers remain the same, owners just change.
Now this last reporting period has shown a most unusual situation in New Zealand, maybe “pprunites” will have the answer for us.
Australia: 17 May 12 Jun ’05. Added 12 to fleet, but 19 changed hands. A sort of "average" event for register watchers.
New Zealand: 17 May – 31 May: Added only 5 to fleet, but an extraordinary 32 changed hands. This is not an usual event, so a lot of people have bought second hand machines.
Thus NZ people would need to be ask: "Who are these new owners and are they starting or expanding a business?"
Food for thought. Any feedback?
Hope this helps. If you want the list of all new owners, then PM me for a listing. Best of luck!
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.
Those who are watching where their next job comes from need to be aware of another set of figures. Increase in fleet size is one thing; but a lot of machines are bought and sold in the reporting period; these figures do not change the fleet size.
Much like buying a second hand car where you live, numbers remain the same, owners just change.
Now this last reporting period has shown a most unusual situation in New Zealand, maybe “pprunites” will have the answer for us.
Australia: 17 May 12 Jun ’05. Added 12 to fleet, but 19 changed hands. A sort of "average" event for register watchers.
New Zealand: 17 May – 31 May: Added only 5 to fleet, but an extraordinary 32 changed hands. This is not an usual event, so a lot of people have bought second hand machines.
Thus NZ people would need to be ask: "Who are these new owners and are they starting or expanding a business?"
Food for thought. Any feedback?
Hope this helps. If you want the list of all new owners, then PM me for a listing. Best of luck!
Sources: CASA and NZ CAA government websites.