Salvage right dispute over Mysterious R22 found in western Canada
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Helicopter Mystery in Western Canada
http://www.chbc.com/index.php?name=N...icle&sid=12268
Interesting Story!!! I'd like to know the outcome of this story. Anyone heard or know anything about this one???
Interesting Story!!! I'd like to know the outcome of this story. Anyone heard or know anything about this one???
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Re: Helicopter Mystery in Western Canada
Well I guess financing your own R22 from growing and selling pot is one way to build hours. (Log book would make suspicious reading though!)
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Re: Helicopter Mystery in Western Canada
Nice to see that at least in some part of the world one can park their vehicle without someone doing damage.
Put the Lat/Lon on the internet and I will bet someone will go up and make a spare parts run..........
Smells like Pharmaceuticals to me......... "I forgot who gave me $150,000 in cash.."
Put the Lat/Lon on the internet and I will bet someone will go up and make a spare parts run..........
Smells like Pharmaceuticals to me......... "I forgot who gave me $150,000 in cash.."
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I believe it is. From what I hear it is near a pretty beat up logging road. Only accesible by air or snowmobile or a very very long hike in!
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Salvage right dispute over Mysterious R22 found in western Canada
More details to the previous story!http://chbc.com/index.php?name=News&...icle&sid=12332
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Here in the UK you cannot just uplift somthing without a few sheets of paper and advert placed in prominent and public places, otherwise its known as Stealing.
Most vehicles and that includes boats and planes belong to some one or to any of the myriad of Finace houses who help people to buy them, that normally allows them the right to appoint their own named salvor!
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Most vehicles and that includes boats and planes belong to some one or to any of the myriad of Finace houses who help people to buy them, that normally allows them the right to appoint their own named salvor!
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I disagree...
One is not guilty of stealing if the finder genuine believes that the owner has abandoned all rights to the property or cannot be traced by taking 'reasonable steps'.
One also cannot be guilty of stealing if you take posession of something to protect it ( I see that the avionics had been filched) whilst efforts to trace the owner are made.
Unlike a wallet you can take to the police station and claim after a month if nobody steps forward to claim it, Im sure the cops will have no problem with somebody looking after it during their enquiries. Otherwise, a lot of taxpayers money would be spent in its recovery.
In short, you need to have a dishonest intent to be guilty of stealing.
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One also cannot be guilty of stealing if you take posession of something to protect it ( I see that the avionics had been filched) whilst efforts to trace the owner are made.
Unlike a wallet you can take to the police station and claim after a month if nobody steps forward to claim it, Im sure the cops will have no problem with somebody looking after it during their enquiries. Otherwise, a lot of taxpayers money would be spent in its recovery.
In short, you need to have a dishonest intent to be guilty of stealing.
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Proving that intention is one's toughest part one has to achieve!
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I must repeat, in the Uk that is regarded by Plod as STEALING, if you are that confident, the next time you see a car or van that aint moved for about 2 weeks or more, drag it away, you cannot force entry for that then is covered by criminal damage, by taking away you come under the TWOC rule (taking without owners consent) you do not have permission, if it is on property that you own, then the law is on your side but you can then be prosecuted for any damage the actual owners feels you may have caused.
Believe me, I have the Tee shirt and the scars are still healing. but if you are certain then GO AHEAD, let us all know when your out again!!
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Believe me, I have the Tee shirt and the scars are still healing. but if you are certain then GO AHEAD, let us all know when your out again!!
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Hi VFR Pilot,
I am an ex-cop ( and didn't leave as a PC...). Happy though to agree to differ with you. I reiterate that the key to this is 'dishonest intent'. There aint a court in the land ( well England anyway..I dont know much about the law in Canada but guess it cant be a million miles away from ours) that will convict you under these unique circumstances.
One rests ones case.
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I am an ex-cop ( and didn't leave as a PC...). Happy though to agree to differ with you. I reiterate that the key to this is 'dishonest intent'. There aint a court in the land ( well England anyway..I dont know much about the law in Canada but guess it cant be a million miles away from ours) that will convict you under these unique circumstances.
One rests ones case.
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Hairyplane,
In order to convict for theft in Canada, the crown has to prove the accused acted "fraudulently and without colour of right": Sec. 322 of the Criminal Code of Canada. Conduct to be fraudulent must be "dishonest and morally wrong" according to a leading case. So it appears that our law is very similar if not identical in terms of the element of "dishonest intent".
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/42972.html
In order to convict for theft in Canada, the crown has to prove the accused acted "fraudulently and without colour of right": Sec. 322 of the Criminal Code of Canada. Conduct to be fraudulent must be "dishonest and morally wrong" according to a leading case. So it appears that our law is very similar if not identical in terms of the element of "dishonest intent".
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/42972.html
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First, I have doubts about the woman reporting finding an R22, then telling the police "I stake claim to it if no one else does". But it does take some nerve of someone else to find it and just take it.
But all this legal talk has me confused. If the woman took possession of the R22 at this point would she be stealing it?
But all this legal talk has me confused. If the woman took possession of the R22 at this point would she be stealing it?
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think about this............. R22 crashes doin something it should`nt be doing(drug running) , pilot does a runner after getting drugs out of a/c to finish the deal and later gets friend to "find" the aircraft, "finder" stakes claim knowing that owner/pilot wont be coming forward and after the duly decided time gets ownership, plane gets removed, no forensics take place on the interior as no offence appears to have taken place and voila, pilot gets his a/c back without getting caught...................god i think i`m a loonie
