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Old 30th Dec 2005, 22:45
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...and 1 incredibly boring post from Dave Jackson re the next generation of nav lights...
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Old 30th Dec 2005, 22:52
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And, of course, Nick wades in with something along the lines of:

You all behave without a brain in your heads, when the nav light fails, you replace it. We train you for years to spot the failure and slap in a new light as THE emergency. Rather than all this discussion about nav lights and their failures, you should be asking WHY we have this stone age equipment in the first place.

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:02
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... and 5 from students that are keeping diaries of their PPL(H) training, comparing notes and congratulating each other on their first solo nav light change.

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:09
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My only concern is the cost of the damage all you lot will cause by attempting maintenance that you are not aptly licensed to carry out.

Rule of thumb for us pilots. If we require a tool of any kind, it is to complicated. To much time in the air-conditioning is bad for engineers health anyway.
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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:16
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Talking of aviation lights, here's a thought for the day -

Why is it that even when you have the anti-collision lights switched on, you can still bump into things..........?

Maybe somebody should investigate this under the trade description act.......
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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:29
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There will be thread creep about why we have red on the left when surely green is more logical. And someone asking about landing lights.

This will spawn another concurrent thread about the history of navigation lights and Herr Draper will make a guest appearance to talk about marine lights and big ships and Linda Bellingham's chest.

Beagle will tell us about how nav lights were much brighter in his day and anyway he had a batman to change his bulbs.

Someone will go on Agony Aunts to say how he has failed to successfully change a light bulb.

PruneFan#1 will pipe up to say that blown lightbulbs are caused by pilots making shallow approaches and getting hit by farmer's flying hats....any pilot blowing a light bulb will get fired......

and of course Gymble will complain about the intelligence of his pilots not being up to changing light bulbs.......oh, he did that already?

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:39
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Rule of thumb for us pilots
Us pilots? US pilots! 'Cuse me while I pick mesel' up off the floor!

If we require a tool of any kind, it is to complicated
Does that include your brain?

Just askin'

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:39
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... and 1 will post lots of complicated quotes from the ANO and related documents.

They will conclude that the documents contribute little or no clarity as to the legal position around the changing a nav light bulb (in fact that they appear to contradict each other) and will ask Flying Lawyer what he thinks.

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Old 31st Dec 2005, 00:13
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... whereupon Flying Lawyer will be conspicuous by his absence as he is discussing the finer points of the remuneration status of magistrates with our good friend U-R!

In the meantime, the girls will just see that the lamp needs changing. Go to stores with appropriate docket and change lamp as required! Job done. Everyone happy!

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Old 31st Dec 2005, 00:34
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Don't forget the 35 who want to know what the 'nav light changing' job market is like at the moment, and whether or not they should give up their current job as an anti-collision light changer...
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 00:38
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1 post from silsoe sid re the fact that his engines are fine???!!!
As the subject title is "How Many Rotorheads...
...does it take to change a nav light? "......

......One could, IMHO, safely assume that the whole unit is being replaced and not just the lamp/bulb/filament. (Otherwise it would say, "....replace a nav bulb? "!.)

Why would we need to replace the unit?

Perhaps because an engine is producing a lot of soot which is deposited on the red/green or at a push, white lens.

This soot layer gradually builds up and in turn retains the heat from the filament within the unit causing the filament to blow and thereby possibly damaging the holder and also the lens.

Therefore, as I have not had to change a nav light recently, I can quite happily say that my engines must be fine, as they don't seem to be producing the soot deposits that are the cause of the nav light to be replaced. in the first place!



I Wish A Happy New Year To You All!!!


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Old 31st Dec 2005, 00:43
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I think we've grossly underestimated the complexity of this seemingly simple issue...
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 00:59
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Don't forget the 35 who want to know what the 'nav light changing' job market is like at the moment, and whether or not they should give up their current job as an anti-collision light changer...
..........and come back in three months time to ask again, when the bottom falls out of the lamp market.
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 01:07
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I just don't know what to think....not one of yez questioned whether that was considered "airwork" or "public transport" if one fetched the new lamp from stores....or what license one would have to hold in order to the swap without pay on a commercial machine located on private property at night during inclement weather?
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 01:16
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at night during inclement weather
Couldn't happen in the UK, the Health and Safety people would have you locked up.
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 01:51
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I can't believe any ppruner would ever consider changing a nav light in inclement weather. We all know that's how you end up a statistic
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 06:21
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Uh, I've changed quite a few bulbs in flashlights over the years, and, uh, even a few in automobiles. I was, uh, thinking about a career in changing helicopter bulbs. Would I be better off if I did training in Kenya, Burma or Peru? Can I convert to JAA after that??
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 07:02
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Request permission to lurk and then post something with nothing to say just to keep up the number of posts.

What ever happened to them?
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 07:11
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rotorfan, simple answer, no. The JAA will make you sit at least 14 exams, medical, and a practical light changing test, plus spend a bucket load of cash, to prove you reach the European standard.
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Old 31st Dec 2005, 07:14
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Plus 1 post from me saying: "Sorry I asked."
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