Mamouth Lifting Russian Heli
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Good Pics heli, is the contrail caused by the Rotor splitting the engines vapours, or from compressing the air , that then feeze's so as to show the individual blade path, those cockpit pics are unbelievable, there would be more comfort in the single cab 1955 Leyland bus, very austere!
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I know you are all going to throw custard pies at me for this, but...
All these glowing references about our commrades in the East, but how many Mil 8's have made the press for the wrong reasons over the last 18 months????
I don't doubt they have their fan base, but are they really any better, or are we looking at them through Vodka glasses???
All these glowing references about our commrades in the East, but how many Mil 8's have made the press for the wrong reasons over the last 18 months????
I don't doubt they have their fan base, but are they really any better, or are we looking at them through Vodka glasses???
Like any machine, with the correct maintenance and professionalism the Mi8 MTV(Civilian) / Mi17(Military) is a great helo. It is strong & rugged. Not pretty, no fancy avionics but for basic utility, (lifting, fire fighting, or transport) hard to beat! 
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If you get a chance to see the footage of lifting the Mammoth again, notice that it is done with a slight tailwind.
The reason they could lift the weight that was over the 'official' limit is that the Russians do not put torque meters on their machines - they rely on the engine fuel control to limit on N1 and make sure the transmissions can take everything the engine can give it.
And they put flight data recorders on the machine too.
Given the very cold weather at the time of the lift, the engines would be more than capable of providing the power and the rotor of providing the thrusties. One wonders about the structure, though.
I did get to fly one, and it was awesome - the rotor speed dial is completely wrong however, and should measure revolutions per day, not per minute. A running landing over unever terrain was truly impressive - I couldn't have driven a Land Rover over the ground at that speed without serious injury to the top of my head. Truly a machine for moving mountains.
The reason they could lift the weight that was over the 'official' limit is that the Russians do not put torque meters on their machines - they rely on the engine fuel control to limit on N1 and make sure the transmissions can take everything the engine can give it.
And they put flight data recorders on the machine too.
Given the very cold weather at the time of the lift, the engines would be more than capable of providing the power and the rotor of providing the thrusties. One wonders about the structure, though.
I did get to fly one, and it was awesome - the rotor speed dial is completely wrong however, and should measure revolutions per day, not per minute. A running landing over unever terrain was truly impressive - I couldn't have driven a Land Rover over the ground at that speed without serious injury to the top of my head. Truly a machine for moving mountains.
