Sikorsky S-76: Ask Nick Lappos
I have been flying for a company operating a fleet of 4 C+ since a little more than 1,5 years and despite 2 decu major faults during this period of time, they seem to be surpringly reliable.....remains to see with time !
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Sorry Nick, now I'm really confused.
Peter says he "pulls or holds" the trigger, pushes the starter button and then advances the throttle to light-off and modulates the temp. Right?
Our company procedure is to NOT "pull or hold" the trigger, just push the starter button, advance the throttle thru the gate, then reach up with one of your fingers and "pull or hold" the trigger so as to be able to come back behind the gate and modulate. Maybe I was not clear in my first post, but as I see it this is contrary to what the RFM says.
Please advise
Peter says he "pulls or holds" the trigger, pushes the starter button and then advances the throttle to light-off and modulates the temp. Right?
Our company procedure is to NOT "pull or hold" the trigger, just push the starter button, advance the throttle thru the gate, then reach up with one of your fingers and "pull or hold" the trigger so as to be able to come back behind the gate and modulate. Maybe I was not clear in my first post, but as I see it this is contrary to what the RFM says.
Please advise
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No worries Nick.
I am trying to find out why we have this procedure. I have asked training pilots and they don't seem to know either. Will update you if I get an answer.
I am trying to find out why we have this procedure. I have asked training pilots and they don't seem to know either. Will update you if I get an answer.
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S-76 Helicopter logging
Can a S-76 be used for helicopter logging?
Can a hook be attached to it? There doesn't seem to be a lot of clearance between the bottom of the heli and the ground.
Can a hook be attached to it? There doesn't seem to be a lot of clearance between the bottom of the heli and the ground.
No problem with a hook on a S76, it will be installed "inside" the fuselage so only the bottom part of the hook (5000 lbs unit) will stick out.
You can use the S76 for sling load work, but there is far better helos for it. The pilots vision outside for sling work is no good and the mirror installation is not the best.
Depending of the weight of the load, it has high Vne with load on though.
Very stable helo for precision work also.
CB
You can use the S76 for sling load work, but there is far better helos for it. The pilots vision outside for sling work is no good and the mirror installation is not the best.
Depending of the weight of the load, it has high Vne with load on though.
Very stable helo for precision work also.
CB
Why on earth would anyone want to use an S-76 to log? It would be the most pointless, money losing exercise in the history of the business.
You can't log with a mirror, you could modify the seat installation to move it to allow for vertical reference work, and install a bubble window - but why?
The S-76 might have a 5000 lb rated hook, but what would it's actual payload be with 1 hour fuel and 5000' DA?
Best consign this concept to the "stupid ideas better never admitted to" file.
You can't log with a mirror, you could modify the seat installation to move it to allow for vertical reference work, and install a bubble window - but why?
The S-76 might have a 5000 lb rated hook, but what would it's actual payload be with 1 hour fuel and 5000' DA?
Best consign this concept to the "stupid ideas better never admitted to" file.
I have done quite a bit of sling work on the Bell 222 which is not that unsimilar to theS76 in that it is also a executive type fast helicopter.
Actually I thought it was great fun to sling with the B222, the visibility outside is terrible but you learn to work around that.
I guess if there is no other helicopter available in the area, you use what you can get!
Actually I thought it was great fun to sling with the B222, the visibility outside is terrible but you learn to work around that.
I guess if there is no other helicopter available in the area, you use what you can get!
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We used it for fire-bucketing amongst other USL jobs. Workable but underpowered and poor vis.
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If you have little equipment (inn other words, if the 76 has the same radio/nav gear as a typical Huey) it can carry a reasonable load. Light 76's can tow in at about 7000 lbs EW while the typical corporate and offshore ones are at 8300+.
The vis is certainly an issue, there is one bubble window version out there somehwere, though.
IMHO, logging with an S-76 is like logging with Nichole Kidman. While she might do the job, there are surely better things she can do.
The vis is certainly an issue, there is one bubble window version out there somehwere, though.
IMHO, logging with an S-76 is like logging with Nichole Kidman. While she might do the job, there are surely better things she can do.
It's not just an adventure....
it's just a job!
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Who in their right mind would even cosider a 76 for heli-logging? It can sling but the vis is terrible!
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So I am not the only one who has escaped to a quite corner on Christmas day to get away from the chaos for a few moments. I thought that we had done well to avoid having to buy my son a set of drums for 19 years but on his twenty'th Christmas, we couldn't think up another excuse. I dread what his flatmates will say when he arrives back at Uni with it.
As for this topic; Nick, you really are stretching the imagination to compare the S76 with NC. My imaginary activities with her have got NOTHING to do with flying.
By the way, with whom would you compare the 92?
Merry Christmas to everyone from a very snowy Scotland.
As for this topic; Nick, you really are stretching the imagination to compare the S76 with NC. My imaginary activities with her have got NOTHING to do with flying.
By the way, with whom would you compare the 92?
Merry Christmas to everyone from a very snowy Scotland.
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HughMartin,
I have that old poster of the reclining beauty superimposed on the 76. With helicopters on the brain, it lulls me to sleep some nights....
The S-92 reminds me of Xena, frankly!
Here is Xena balancing the rotor:
And a very Merry Christmas to you all from frigid New England, USA!
I have that old poster of the reclining beauty superimposed on the 76. With helicopters on the brain, it lulls me to sleep some nights....
The S-92 reminds me of Xena, frankly!
Here is Xena balancing the rotor:
And a very Merry Christmas to you all from frigid New England, USA!
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Nick,
Are you sure that's not Xena giving her personal opinion of the EH101...she's not exactly looking friendly and that's not the full set of fingers she's waving with....
Bags I volunteer to do the ground runs with her
Are you sure that's not Xena giving her personal opinion of the EH101...she's not exactly looking friendly and that's not the full set of fingers she's waving with....
Bags I volunteer to do the ground runs with her
Well, I have had the best of both worlds, I had Nicole Kidman in my S76!
We weren't logging, and I didn't "have" her, in that sense, you know... Her minders and Russell Crowe (who was there too) would have killed me, but they would have needed a taxi to get home afterwards.
We weren't logging, and I didn't "have" her, in that sense, you know... Her minders and Russell Crowe (who was there too) would have killed me, but they would have needed a taxi to get home afterwards.
