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Old 15th October 2000 | 13:25
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Has anyone ever flown a RAF 2000 gyroplane? Looks a little bit like a helicopter, reputed to fly somewhat like an R22 (except it can't hover ). But much much cheaper - their website, www.raf2000.com is obviously aimed at the R22 market, but emphasising the difference in price. I went up to Carlisle for a trial lesson in one some months ago, but it never happened because.... long story.

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Old 15th October 2000 | 20:20
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The training application should be viable. I know of at least one R/W pilot who completed a large portion of the minimum hours required for his CPL with a gyrocopter. Good concept, that is. Can any of you enlighten the rest of us (wannabes, especially) on the regs?

I think I may follow your lead and look into a little R&R by going up there. I flew the Benson years ago.

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Old 16th October 2000 | 18:15
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Wow, I never thought of hours building for a CPL on a gyro. That could save LOTS of money if you got a fairly basic one (ie NOT a RAF2000). Are you sure about this?

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Old 16th October 2000 | 20:13
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Ditto are you sure about this? .. hope so
 
Old 16th October 2000 | 22:08
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Yeah, I'm sure he told me that this is what he did; even showed me some pix. I don't know about the regs though. As I recall, he did most of the solo and cross country hour building this way.

That's all I know.

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Old 17th October 2000 | 01:57
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Saw a RAF2000 at an airshow in Pennsylvania this Saturday. Amazing machine - takeoff run of only 70 feet, climbs at a 45 degree angle.
Also watched a original Pitcairn autogyro from the 30's fly low and slow over the crowd.
 
Old 17th October 2000 | 15:10
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I've emailed CAA but in meantime anyone know the regs please. please, please...
 
Old 17th October 2000 | 16:20
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Just spoke to CAA who say no... Thoughts, more info anyone?
 
Old 17th October 2000 | 17:17
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Just for clarification, the fellow I refer to was an American airline pilot. I ran into him last year while bumming a jump seat and having no personal need for it, I promptly forgot the critical details. The conversation was specific though and I recall him showing me pictures as well as the licenses and logbook entries. I believe that it has to do with the wording of the FAA regs which define a gyrocopter as a rotorcraft or something like that.

It will probably take some careful reading of the CAA regs to determine if the same is possible there. I doubt you'll get much help from the blokes at the CAA - do your own research. Are there any lawyers on the forum who might want to take this on?
 
Old 17th October 2000 | 20:57
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Cron, who did you talk to at the CAA? There's a chap there who specialises in anything to do with gyros. Unfortunately I've forgotten his name, though he was very helpful when I talked to him a bit back about a reduction in hours if I wanted a PPL(G). But Roger Savage, Carlisle Airport based gyro instructor, knows who he is, if you fancy doing a little bit more research. Roger might know too; since he flies helicopters as well as gyros.


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Old 17th October 2000 | 22:24
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Didn,t the managing director of RAF die when he crashed one of his own 2000s?
 
Old 18th October 2000 | 16:30
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Whirlybird: I'm on it, CAA bloke's name I didn't get (twit that I am).

Do you know if CAA have an email address that they respond to?

 
Old 18th October 2000 | 19:31
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If you are interested in another design approach, check out www.gbagyros.com

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Old 23rd October 2000 | 18:57
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Take a look at http://www.homestead.com/ufohelithruster/index~ns4.html
 
Old 23rd October 2000 | 20:11
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Wow, looks nice, sensible cruising speed, and cheap. I want one!

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Old 24th October 2000 | 00:19
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Can we fly this in the UK???
 
Old 24th October 2000 | 00:38
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Good question. Highly unlikely I'd say. Give the CAA ten years or so

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Old 24th October 2000 | 01:45
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October 1998 issue of Pilot has a flight test of an RAF 2000.

A telephone number given in the article is for a Mike Goldring of Newton Air Gyroplanes, Devon - 01626 353717. Kit price then $21000 excluding options.

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