Weston Helidays UK - Landing Fees
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Well Hughes 500..so interesting to hear you have always contributed as the one year there was a donations box only one owner put any money in it !
Anyway perhaps you should come clean and identify yourself so everyone can see how generous you were!
Meanwhile I have been down there today,helping to get things ready and as the organisers have got two Apaches,two AB 212s(including the first ever visit to the UK by the Carabinieri),a Cougar,Huey (with the possible showing of the Vietnam War example just arrived in the UK,) an A129 and two Ai109s,already arrived and two SeaKings, a BO105 and an AB412 due to arrive tomorrow it is those who stay away who will miss out !!
I suggest those who feel contributing an amount voluntarily is better than being asked will be welcome anyway if the donation is more than £10.00 ,and perhaps it is also worth remembering that one of the reasons for the event is to show the public that those nasty dangerous helicopters are really quite nice and nothing to be afraid of.Get the public on side and perhaps at least you will still be able to land your helo away from airfields in future.Good PR value I'd say !
And the reason those who stay more than 26 hours are welcome for free ?? ...is because they are helping us put on a good static display for the public instead of just flying in and out.Simple really.
Anyway perhaps you should come clean and identify yourself so everyone can see how generous you were!
Meanwhile I have been down there today,helping to get things ready and as the organisers have got two Apaches,two AB 212s(including the first ever visit to the UK by the Carabinieri),a Cougar,Huey (with the possible showing of the Vietnam War example just arrived in the UK,) an A129 and two Ai109s,already arrived and two SeaKings, a BO105 and an AB412 due to arrive tomorrow it is those who stay away who will miss out !!
I suggest those who feel contributing an amount voluntarily is better than being asked will be welcome anyway if the donation is more than £10.00 ,and perhaps it is also worth remembering that one of the reasons for the event is to show the public that those nasty dangerous helicopters are really quite nice and nothing to be afraid of.Get the public on side and perhaps at least you will still be able to land your helo away from airfields in future.Good PR value I'd say !
And the reason those who stay more than 26 hours are welcome for free ?? ...is because they are helping us put on a good static display for the public instead of just flying in and out.Simple really.
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I've got this brilliant idea for getting them to waive the landing fee.
Tell them you'll donate £20 if they give you a free landing.
I bet they'll do it, the mugs.
I'm going on Friday, weather permitting. I'll let you know whether the cunning plan works.
Tell them you'll donate £20 if they give you a free landing.
I bet they'll do it, the mugs.
I'm going on Friday, weather permitting. I'll let you know whether the cunning plan works.
"I bet they'll do it, the mugs."
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The last time I came was about 3 years ago and for quite a lot of years before then. I have always contributed when booking in - when there has been a box to donate into !!!
As a helicopter business I have 3 of my aircraft visiting you over the weekend. Sorry i am not a charity and have to work at it to make the machines earn a realistic living, hence they can't stay the weekend and to be fair none of the customers flying them want to stay the weekend.
I just think you could have been a bit more tactful espically when a lot of pilots will be hiring machines to visit you ( which will cost them in the back pocket ) and hence put on a better day for the punter on the beach.
The last time I came was about 3 years ago and for quite a lot of years before then. I have always contributed when booking in - when there has been a box to donate into !!!
As a helicopter business I have 3 of my aircraft visiting you over the weekend. Sorry i am not a charity and have to work at it to make the machines earn a realistic living, hence they can't stay the weekend and to be fair none of the customers flying them want to stay the weekend.
I just think you could have been a bit more tactful espically when a lot of pilots will be hiring machines to visit you ( which will cost them in the back pocket ) and hence put on a better day for the punter on the beach.
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Quite an impressive array of military machines yesterday - 2x Apache from the Netherlands, US Black Hawk from Mannheim, Dutch Cougar, Sea Kings from Norway and Germany, big Bell from Italy, Belgian military aircraft - but shamefully, from the UK only an RN Lynx that came in for a couple of hours after somebody up there bent the rules to allow it, and a DHFS Squirrel, again flying in the back door. Yes, the RAF had demanded £1,600 for an EH101 appearance; they'd also effectively tripled the insurance demands on the organisers to cover it. And this despite the fact that the RAF gets a recruiting tent, free.
PS: My cunning ruse worked. Not only did the lady at reception write "Not applicable" in the 'landing fee' box, but she wrote "A very nice man" on the booking-in sheet. Good judge of character.
PS: My cunning ruse worked. Not only did the lady at reception write "Not applicable" in the 'landing fee' box, but she wrote "A very nice man" on the booking-in sheet. Good judge of character.
Shame about the weather today; better luck tomorrow! stopped by en-route LHR from PZE but combination of horrendous M5 traffic (=4+ hours delay) plus weather meant no stop. C'est la vie!
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I saw Pat at WSM on Friday afternoon and he told me his cunning ruse with the £20 note had worked.
Moreover, if you pay in-advance, even though staying more than 26hrs and thus entitled to free parking, you also get pole positioned in parking rather than having to walk an extra 400m to the far end X multiple journeys, thus saving additional monies in shoe leather!
Thanks to all the staff at Helidays for the organisation and work on the field. Without you, it would have been nothing.
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Moreover, if you pay in-advance, even though staying more than 26hrs and thus entitled to free parking, you also get pole positioned in parking rather than having to walk an extra 400m to the far end X multiple journeys, thus saving additional monies in shoe leather!
Thanks to all the staff at Helidays for the organisation and work on the field. Without you, it would have been nothing.
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heli1,
If I can just pick up on a few of your points of your post of 27th July 2005 20:56 .
1. I could not see any other charity mentioned on the Helicopter Museum website.
2. What are the military doing charging for bringing a helicopter when we, the tax payer, has already paid to by it and to train people to fly it.
3. You mention you are a volunteer, I bet you either offered you services or you were asked, you certainly were not you told to do it?
4. There is no airworthy heli on the planet that costs "several thousand pounds", they are at least 10's of thousands and a lot of people that fly them are not wealthy at all, they are just passionate about these
fascinating machines and it costs them a fortune to experience that amazing form of flight, then they bring it to Weston for you to see - now that's not "tight".............have you any idea?
5. You would think that those who take up a 'SLOT' for long periods would be the one who would have to pay. People like to see aircraft movement, it would be quite dull if everyone came in on Friday morning and
left on Sunday afternoon.
6. "Whinger", "Tight", would you volunteer you services if it cost you a £1000 to get there in travel expenses and a few hundred quid for a hotel for a night?
Now a response to you post of 28th July 2005 16:37
1. Does that mean you will not welcome anyone that does not wish to donate more than a £10? Sound like a mandatory landing fee!! Still at £10.01 there was some discount to be had as, if you pay on the day as
opposed to up front it should be £15.00 :-)
2. Anyone that pays to see the helicopters is not the person that thinks they are nasty and dangerous.
3. As I have already said, the flying in and out is interesting for the punters, plus it frees up another slot.
If I can just pick up on a few of your points of your post of 27th July 2005 20:56 .
1. I could not see any other charity mentioned on the Helicopter Museum website.
2. What are the military doing charging for bringing a helicopter when we, the tax payer, has already paid to by it and to train people to fly it.
3. You mention you are a volunteer, I bet you either offered you services or you were asked, you certainly were not you told to do it?
4. There is no airworthy heli on the planet that costs "several thousand pounds", they are at least 10's of thousands and a lot of people that fly them are not wealthy at all, they are just passionate about these
fascinating machines and it costs them a fortune to experience that amazing form of flight, then they bring it to Weston for you to see - now that's not "tight".............have you any idea?
5. You would think that those who take up a 'SLOT' for long periods would be the one who would have to pay. People like to see aircraft movement, it would be quite dull if everyone came in on Friday morning and
left on Sunday afternoon.
6. "Whinger", "Tight", would you volunteer you services if it cost you a £1000 to get there in travel expenses and a few hundred quid for a hotel for a night?
Now a response to you post of 28th July 2005 16:37
1. Does that mean you will not welcome anyone that does not wish to donate more than a £10? Sound like a mandatory landing fee!! Still at £10.01 there was some discount to be had as, if you pay on the day as
opposed to up front it should be £15.00 :-)
2. Anyone that pays to see the helicopters is not the person that thinks they are nasty and dangerous.
3. As I have already said, the flying in and out is interesting for the punters, plus it frees up another slot.
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Just a message of thanks and well done to all at WSM over the weekend. Well organised and professionally (but unpaid) managed. I am only sorry that I could not have stayed longer.
(And no, £10/£15 is not a big deal considering the wind direction on the trip would have easily made +/- that amount of cost differential based on extended/shortened flying time)
A bit of a sorry state that our own military could not put on a fuller appearance when the Italians and Scandis managed to make the much longer journey.
I saw the Italians fly off across the Isle of Wight on Monday. The aggressive outline of an attack heli against the grey murk of a sky was quite spooky !
(And no, £10/£15 is not a big deal considering the wind direction on the trip would have easily made +/- that amount of cost differential based on extended/shortened flying time)
A bit of a sorry state that our own military could not put on a fuller appearance when the Italians and Scandis managed to make the much longer journey.
I saw the Italians fly off across the Isle of Wight on Monday. The aggressive outline of an attack heli against the grey murk of a sky was quite spooky !
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I must agree with those put off by the landing fees. As a Chinook, Sea King and Gazelle driver I have been put off numerous times from landing at the museum. Our presence would surely attract visitors but we would be charged for the privelege of showing off our machines to the tax payer who actually owns them. The museum must realise that not charging would attract more aircraft and thus more museum visitors...
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Sorry folks...didn't make it.
We got as far as the approach over the old severn bridge but it was too misty, ..couldn't even see the tops of the towers, so we turned back, had a cuppa at Gloucester, and then we were a little late for a gathering near Tiverton so we went straight there instead...hope all had a good time.
Next year...
We got as far as the approach over the old severn bridge but it was too misty, ..couldn't even see the tops of the towers, so we turned back, had a cuppa at Gloucester, and then we were a little late for a gathering near Tiverton so we went straight there instead...hope all had a good time.
Next year...
