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Old 14th Jun 2005, 17:53
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NYC Longranger crashes into river

CNBC just reported that a helicopter crashed into the water near Wall Street in New York. Apparently all 7 people aboard survived and were taken to hospital.
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NYC Longranger crashes into the river

Fox News is showing live video of a crashed Long Ranger down in the river in NYC.

No word on injuries, deaths, causes yet.

Aircraft is secured to a barge....lots of emergency assistance on site. Airframe inverted in the water, floats inflated. EMS seen placing one man onto a stretcher....after seen walking around....second man seen being hugged by a couple of folks...him also wet.

No sense of urgency seen in divers in view on the video.

Just heard no serious injuries resulting from the event. No word yet on possible causes. Let the guessing begin.
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Yep - it's right outside Mrs. Ranger's office at Old Slip. One of her colleagues saw it - described as a tail rotor strike, finished up upside down in the river. Bloody lucky they all got out, if reports are correct.

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They just showed a live shot of it being recovered. It was floating upside down next to the pier and they were getting ready to hoist it out of the water.
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pics and some video here along with story.

http://www.wnbc.com/news/4607311/detail.html
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Reports say the accident occurred around 1:30 p.m. near South Street.
Some say 6 POB, some 7.

South Street is on the East River - near the Wall St heliport.
Reports don't yet say if the helicopter was approaching/departing the heliport.
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Reports say there were 7 POB, none seriously injured.
The accident occured shortly after takeoff.
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I heard all pax resued safely, but then again on the same broadcast, they just announced DFW had opened up a new Terminal B
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Talking Terminal D!!!

DFW just opened Terminal "D". You were close.....!!
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Australians in US helicopter crash

A tourist helicopter, carrying a group of six Australian and French tourists, crashed into New York's East River, flipping over as it hit the water.

The pilot and all passengers on board were safely rescued in a joint operation by police and coast guard.

There were no serious injuries.

"They seemed in decent shape but were taken to hospital as a precaution," police spokesman Sergeant Walter Burnes said.

The helicopter made what Mr Burnes described as a "hard landing" near a pier at the foot of Wall Street in lower Manhattan.

Police sources said the helicopter was operated by a company called Helicopter Flight Services and had been rented out by the passengers for an aerial tour of New York.

The precise cause of the crash was not immediately known.

Antonio Dajer, associate medical director at New York University Downtown Medical Centre, said the passengers and paramedics on the spot had recounted how the helicopter got in trouble as it was lifting off.

"It clipped something that damaged the rotor and immediately the pilot lost control and pitched into the water," Dr Dajer told CNN.

Dr Dajer said two patients had been treated for mild exposure to gasoline fumes.

The helicopter, still inverted in the water, was secured by ropes and flotation devices, as the emergency services discussed the best way to lift it from the river.
Further report here
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An eyewitness account from Ranger One's missus reported in the other thread (over in R&N) seems to confirm a tail-strike. That looks like a fairly old LongRanger.



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Old 15th Jun 2005, 00:50
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206L (C20) on pop outs, six pax: not a lot of power on take off, methinks

Even with the water/meth injection going, it would be a bit of a handful. Amazing they all got out; it's receiving lots of airtime down here with the Australian passenger involvement.
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 02:22
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Hmm.. temperatures in New York today about 85°F (ca 30°C) yes not a lot of power to spare although of course there could very well be a entirely different reason for the crash, I´m just saying.

For those that don´t know the way to tell it has a C20B engine is because it has dual exhaust stacks and not the one wide that the C28 & C30 have!

What always bugs me is when the press brings up the age of the aircraft, like in this case the airframe was 28 yrs old. It does not matter at all. Probably about 75% of the parts that total up the value of this aircraft were less than 10 years old. A data plate, some windows and doors and sheetmetal usually will not cause the aircraft to crash.
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Slight correction, it wasn't my missus saw it, it was one of her colleagues - their office is on Old Slip, overlooking the area - just a few yards North of the heliport.

Third-hand eyewitness etc. etc. but I don't see any reason to disbelieve a tailstrike at this stage. Yes it was hot enough to grow doughnuts in New York today - record high for June at JFK - believe the pax were not American, so weight issue may not have been quite so critical but still, in these temps...

On a more unhappy note it's now reported that one of the survivors is in a coma...

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"How it happened" - according to Newsday.com anyway


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I note the bottom of that article has "Other recent crashes".

Is 12 or 8 years ago "recent" ?
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Nothing like dragging out those "recent" figures. We had a similar one just in the last couple of days, saying how Queensland was leading the country in aircraft crash fatalities and then padding out the story with details of crashes going back to the early 1990s.

Nothing like a beat up to get the readers in.
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According to the video link:

six people and the pilot were on board when the helicopter crashed...
Could you imagine how bad it would have been if the pilot hadn't been on board when it crashed?

Oh and "Colin Mckenzie from Ireland" interviewed near the end has a very distinctive Glasgwegian accent.

Great reporting as usual.

The written report says;
The helicopter did a 360-degree roll before the pilot put the six-passenger helicopter down in the water
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Is that possible in a helicopter?
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Old 15th Jun 2005, 14:42
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BBC report of the accident


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/4094564.stm
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