NYC Longranger crashes into river
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Originally Posted by alouette
I wonder if there is a hand-held electronic device available to determine the CG of an aircraft.
) I've got a spreadsheet like this I developed for the r22, and seen 'em for as350 etc...
Now that I look at the winking emoticon in your post I'm thinking you might have meant a calculator!
Heliport,
I am sure the aircraft felt a sinking sensation along with the pilots stomach when it passed off the end of the wharf without ETL or the power to accelerate and climb away. One would have gone from in ground effect to a situation much less conducive to flight at that point. If it was not flying at that point....it sure wasn't going to fly after that point. Throw in the possiblity of being a bit downwind on the takeoff and the situation gets more depressing.
Maybe we need to start calculating rejected takeoff distances, balanced field lengths, and CDP's for single engine helicopters as well as multi-engine aircraft.
Is this another case of commercial pressure....show up to pick up a load of executives and find you are too heavy....how does one say..."One of you must get down!" and keep your customer/job? Did the customer have that infamous..."extra passenger that has to go"?
I am sure the aircraft felt a sinking sensation along with the pilots stomach when it passed off the end of the wharf without ETL or the power to accelerate and climb away. One would have gone from in ground effect to a situation much less conducive to flight at that point. If it was not flying at that point....it sure wasn't going to fly after that point. Throw in the possiblity of being a bit downwind on the takeoff and the situation gets more depressing.
Maybe we need to start calculating rejected takeoff distances, balanced field lengths, and CDP's for single engine helicopters as well as multi-engine aircraft.
Is this another case of commercial pressure....show up to pick up a load of executives and find you are too heavy....how does one say..."One of you must get down!" and keep your customer/job? Did the customer have that infamous..."extra passenger that has to go"?
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There are numerous handheld devices that will determine CG. I use a Palm Tungsten T3, with Copilot as the software. It will do detailed flight planning, including flight time, fuel, cost, and anything else you need, including CG with a graphical display of CG at ramp, takeoff, landing, and zero fuel. It's free, and better than the commercial program for PC the boss provides. It's not certified for Part 135 use, but it's accurate and quick, and will at least tell you if you're overgross or out of CG without needing a PC or EFB.
