Landing site in London?
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Camden is in 'The Specified Area' of Heathrow Control Zone. It is possible to land at a private site there, but first (and several weeks before your flight) you must apply to 'London Terminal Control Centre' for a 'Non Standard Flight Notification' number, which, on the day of the flight, you must call up and activate.
But even having done this, you are still subject to Heathrows' ATC and as such you may be told to hold, take a different route or even abort your flight at the very last minute and with no prior warning!
Basically, you can do it, but there's paper work involved and the possibility of being buggered about when you get there.
But even having done this, you are still subject to Heathrows' ATC and as such you may be told to hold, take a different route or even abort your flight at the very last minute and with no prior warning!
Basically, you can do it, but there's paper work involved and the possibility of being buggered about when you get there.
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There are 2 issues, only one of which may be related to ATC. My contribution comes with a date warning, as I may be out of date, but:
1. It used to be the case that no special flight permission was required from ATC for a flight which was just a simple landing and/or departure at a private site in the Class A London Zone. (This is different from say a photographic flight which would require a special flight clearance) It MAY be that the rules have changed, but I do suggest you check.
2. The other issue is compliance with Rule 5 of the Rules of the Air. This
a) has absolutely nothing to do with an ATC clearance; and
b) has also recently changed, because Rule 5 has changed.
I will check later re: the new Rule 5, but any landing or take-off from a private site within a congested area would require specific permission from the CAA (under the old Rule 5). I am fairly certain the CAA would not remove this requirement, but this needs checking.
[Having now checked, the rule is now called the 1,000 ft rule, but it will require an exemption. And just in case, there is any doubt, a twin engine hele will be needed.]
1. It used to be the case that no special flight permission was required from ATC for a flight which was just a simple landing and/or departure at a private site in the Class A London Zone. (This is different from say a photographic flight which would require a special flight clearance) It MAY be that the rules have changed, but I do suggest you check.
2. The other issue is compliance with Rule 5 of the Rules of the Air. This
a) has absolutely nothing to do with an ATC clearance; and
b) has also recently changed, because Rule 5 has changed.
I will check later re: the new Rule 5, but any landing or take-off from a private site within a congested area would require specific permission from the CAA (under the old Rule 5). I am fairly certain the CAA would not remove this requirement, but this needs checking.
[Having now checked, the rule is now called the 1,000 ft rule, but it will require an exemption. And just in case, there is any doubt, a twin engine hele will be needed.]
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You will need a CAA exemption / permission for landing in a congested area, which costs about £90. The permission will specify conditions that have to be met, for example the aircraft will have to be operated to Class A performance standards at all times, in the interests of avoiding risk to those on the ground in the event of an engine failure.
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etd, as an ex Camden resident I am fascinated to know where your proposed LZ is... Just being nosey.
Having watched the deBeers chap drop in on a regular basis to EC1 I would so love to see some more activity over town.
Good luck. I'll wave you in if need be!
Having watched the deBeers chap drop in on a regular basis to EC1 I would so love to see some more activity over town.
Good luck. I'll wave you in if need be!
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Actually, a delay due to other traffic (Northolt/Battersea/Police/Helimed) is more likley than pure buggeration.
(But can be arranged if that floats your boat!!)
(But can be arranged if that floats your boat!!)
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Also prudent to pre-warn the local Old Bill; if it's an unusual occurence they will be deluged with reports from Joe Public.
