The great IR debate

[Aser]

An operator taking on a newbie with an IR gained on a single, be it piston or turbine, has to commit a large amount of its own cash into training the pilot to the relevant level, including paying for the rating etc. What promise has the operator got that said newbie will thank them by taking his newly gained rating and chasing after a job with the operator he really wanted to work for?

Oh my god! Are you saying that it's too risky for the operator or what?
They have the money not me! What are you suggesting? that we must pay whatever kind of type rating to get a job?
You can't be serius about that...
It's their problem not mine.If they want a pilot pay for it and take care of him or whatever clause to not lose him.
But.. wait a minute , it's the JAA setting the new training standards (ir in twins) or the operators...???
The only thing I know for sure it's that I'm not going to pay a f***** euro/dollar more than I paid for my cpl/ir(on single)
Hey, maybe I'm the luckiest guy in the world but I have a fresh bell 412 type rating right after the school and waiting to start as copilot in a few weeks.
I dont' mind if I have to sign a clause about time in the company or pay back.
IT'S THE ONLY WAY => you pay your intial training and they pay for the type rating and training

I hope not to be the only new guy thinking this way...

Best regards.
Aser

[flyer43]

Although I sympathise, and mostly agree with your sentiments, the scene has been set by some of your predecesors who were looking to hitch a "free" jump up the ladder.
Operators do indeed have the money available, or at least some of them! But they don't want to hand it out unless they are sure of what they are handing it out for, or, more to the point, who they are handing it out to.

[212man]

I think you'll find that the JARs don't require you to train on a twin. It's the national regulations about flying IFR that cause the problem.