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Picture of SeaKing lifting Gazelle?
I've been asked to find a picture of a SeaKing lifting a Gazelle, I've seen one at Shawbury, but does anyone have an electronic copy they can e-mail me
Thanks
Thanks
Does it have to be a Gazelle? I've got a few of Bailey Bridge sections, Land Rover & trailer, RR Spey in its cradle, or these:
Last edited by John Eacott; 8th Apr 2003 at 15:53.
Thanks for that Pubuser. It answers my question on the SAS.
Really from a civil helicopter point of view the potential for the restriction I describe should really have been the subject of an AD.
Really from a civil helicopter point of view the potential for the restriction I describe should really have been the subject of an AD.
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Having just accessed prune after a few weeks, I noted this control restriction thread on the Gaz.
I had a problem with a cyclic restriction many years ago in Norway. In a dualled a/c , I dropped off another pilot in the snow and asked him to ensure the harness was all connected up.
Then transitted for ten mins. to another site surrounded by trees and requiring a long vertical drop-down. On descending I could not move cyclic aft and was rapidly closing towards some large fir trees!
Thinking a big prang was imminent, I happened to glance left and saw that the empty-seat harness had disengaged itself and the five-piece box prevented rearwards movement of the cyclic. I lunged across and after several attempts knocked it clear. I then executed a rapid backwards climb and went round for another rather more sedate approach. The Marines on the ground were cheering... they obviously thought I was just showing off!
My lesson after that was always to check for myself. But reading previous threads I wonder if this may have occurred in other incidents.
I had a problem with a cyclic restriction many years ago in Norway. In a dualled a/c , I dropped off another pilot in the snow and asked him to ensure the harness was all connected up.
Then transitted for ten mins. to another site surrounded by trees and requiring a long vertical drop-down. On descending I could not move cyclic aft and was rapidly closing towards some large fir trees!
Thinking a big prang was imminent, I happened to glance left and saw that the empty-seat harness had disengaged itself and the five-piece box prevented rearwards movement of the cyclic. I lunged across and after several attempts knocked it clear. I then executed a rapid backwards climb and went round for another rather more sedate approach. The Marines on the ground were cheering... they obviously thought I was just showing off!
My lesson after that was always to check for myself. But reading previous threads I wonder if this may have occurred in other incidents.
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Si,
I've got a book at home with numerous seaking lifting gazelles piccies (RM/RAF and RN!)
If I can find a scanner I'll email them to you or try to post them on this forum
Cheers
also got a phot of a Seaking lifting a leopard tank......
I've got a book at home with numerous seaking lifting gazelles piccies (RM/RAF and RN!)
If I can find a scanner I'll email them to you or try to post them on this forum
Cheers
also got a phot of a Seaking lifting a leopard tank......
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Ex RM M8 of mine at work has a pic on his wall of a rotorless gaz being lifted by a Seaking.
If you still want another pic let me know and I'll see if I can blag a copy next time I am at HQ
If you still want another pic let me know and I'll see if I can blag a copy next time I am at HQ
So, how does the Gazelle pilot manage to balance that ugly great thing on top of such a long, thin pole, then?...
Or is it the Gazelle AT5 with Mast-Mounted Bootie Shifter?
(I'd bung in a few shots of Chinooks lifting everything from Sea Kings down, but some Mi26 operator would come along and make them look pretty tame)
Or is it the Gazelle AT5 with Mast-Mounted Bootie Shifter?
(I'd bung in a few shots of Chinooks lifting everything from Sea Kings down, but some Mi26 operator would come along and make them look pretty tame)
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The other Gazelle accident last week
Apart from the Murray Grierson accident mentioned in another thread, I understand there was another accident in Northern England last Wednesday. Location or identity of helicopter not known - I do have a name but don't think it's appropriate here.
Reported that the guy was on first flight to home on his own having done 15+ hours after getting ticket. Pilot's 5 point harness buckle got caught in cyclic gator in floor & restricted movement of cyclic in the rearward direction. (Apparently a known issue with Gazelles & is in the flight manual - referring only to passenger buckle only as one assumes that the pilot might be wearing his harness in flight!?). Uncontrolled forward speed on landing required the aircraft to be stopped by a means that isn't in the flight manual - namely a barn where the intact heli was supposed to have been hangared - ooops!!
MD600 Driver - heard anything of this? Hopefully not your Gazelle?
Reported that the guy was on first flight to home on his own having done 15+ hours after getting ticket. Pilot's 5 point harness buckle got caught in cyclic gator in floor & restricted movement of cyclic in the rearward direction. (Apparently a known issue with Gazelles & is in the flight manual - referring only to passenger buckle only as one assumes that the pilot might be wearing his harness in flight!?). Uncontrolled forward speed on landing required the aircraft to be stopped by a means that isn't in the flight manual - namely a barn where the intact heli was supposed to have been hangared - ooops!!
MD600 Driver - heard anything of this? Hopefully not your Gazelle?
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pp heli
no not mine i am expecting another gaz to be based nearby any time now will check if its him
its going to cause problems with insurance for people with ex mil gazelles
send me a pm with any details
steve
no not mine i am expecting another gaz to be based nearby any time now will check if its him
its going to cause problems with insurance for people with ex mil gazelles
send me a pm with any details
steve
Spoke to an associate of mine who owns a Gaz piece. He tells me he crashed his last week because the QRB slipped down around the base of the cyclic causing him to run out of aft cyclic just when you need it (downwind in the hover) and he had to run it on. Unfortunately his tail struck the ground and ripped the frange off, the a/c then lurched fwd onto the ground and damaged the skids, too.
Sounds too much like ppheli's incident. Perhaps there were two incidents?
Sounds too much like ppheli's incident. Perhaps there were two incidents?
I don't recall seeing anything posted on PPrune but apparently an ex-mil Gazelle hit wires near Stanstead a few weeks ago (about 6?) with one pilot on board? Apparently the pilot parked almost under the cables then completely forgot about them when he did his take-off.
Rumour has it that the impact severed the hydraulics to the T/R servo and after several gyrations the pilot got it down under control and kept it upright. Understand the aircraft went to MW Helis at Stapleford for repairs.
As MD600 implies, the insurance for ex-mil Gazelles looks set to go through the roof.
J
Rumour has it that the impact severed the hydraulics to the T/R servo and after several gyrations the pilot got it down under control and kept it upright. Understand the aircraft went to MW Helis at Stapleford for repairs.
As MD600 implies, the insurance for ex-mil Gazelles looks set to go through the roof.
J
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jelly copter
that was a civvy gazelle at stanstead know the pilot and the heli well 1 pilot all ok all the other info is correct but more than 6 weeks
tc
if you mean lifter yes it was him if you get my drift
any way all of them ok lots of self embarresments but in the end works out well
steve
that was a civvy gazelle at stanstead know the pilot and the heli well 1 pilot all ok all the other info is correct but more than 6 weeks
tc
if you mean lifter yes it was him if you get my drift
any way all of them ok lots of self embarresments but in the end works out well
steve