Life after the Military
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Life after the Army
I am trying to get an idea as to what employment may be available after leaving the Army.
What chances do I have of getting a job in the UK with 1200 hrs Gazelle time and 300 of that solo pilot ops?.
Obviously the licenses are a must.
What oportunities are out there and how much do you get paid??
Does anyone count single engine time??
Many Thanks
Ralph
What chances do I have of getting a job in the UK with 1200 hrs Gazelle time and 300 of that solo pilot ops?.
Obviously the licenses are a must.
What oportunities are out there and how much do you get paid??
Does anyone count single engine time??
Many Thanks
Ralph
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Does that mean you have 300 hrs P1?
The onshore market is generally recruiting but the better jobs require some twin time for HEMS, police work etc. There are opportunities for single turbine work, particularly underslinging but these normally require some commercial USL experience.
Best bet would be to use the AAC network. You must know someone who is now working onshore. The offshore market is not so buoyant but you never know, although you are probably a bit short of IFR time.
Salaries! Police, HEMS £35000 to about £43000. Charter/USL on singles non IFR at a guess start around £30000.
There are a couple of operators in Scotland who maybe of interest, one of which has some close AAC connections.
The onshore market is generally recruiting but the better jobs require some twin time for HEMS, police work etc. There are opportunities for single turbine work, particularly underslinging but these normally require some commercial USL experience.
Best bet would be to use the AAC network. You must know someone who is now working onshore. The offshore market is not so buoyant but you never know, although you are probably a bit short of IFR time.
Salaries! Police, HEMS £35000 to about £43000. Charter/USL on singles non IFR at a guess start around £30000.
There are a couple of operators in Scotland who maybe of interest, one of which has some close AAC connections.
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Ralph, if you are getting out, then good luck mate I was never a powder-puff, but I was a bluebell, and getting out is a scary thing. Nine years down the line and I'm driving a company Jag... Oh bugger, I have to hand it in next week, I've just been made redundant
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Ralph,
I left 15 years ago and have never been unemployed since. If you really want a job there's always something, even if it's s*te. At least it'll build up your experience/time. Don't lose hope and don't be scared, if you have what it takes, i.e. flexibility, self discilpine etc (which, if you're ex AAC you will have), you will be OK one way or the other.
Good Luck Mate !!
I left 15 years ago and have never been unemployed since. If you really want a job there's always something, even if it's s*te. At least it'll build up your experience/time. Don't lose hope and don't be scared, if you have what it takes, i.e. flexibility, self discilpine etc (which, if you're ex AAC you will have), you will be OK one way or the other.
Good Luck Mate !!
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It is a hard decision - especially if you have to make the decision 6 months ahead!
FWIW, IMHO the coming years will be good for employment. There are signs of shortages and have been for some time. It will be some time before they really bite, as some wages are still low, but the process is starting.
Good luck!
Phil
FWIW, IMHO the coming years will be good for employment. There are signs of shortages and have been for some time. It will be some time before they really bite, as some wages are still low, but the process is starting.
Good luck!
Phil
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Ralphmalph,
Left the army myself 2 years ago and was lucky to get straight into work, even had the choice of a number of jobs. You are leaving the army at the right time as there are indications of a shortage of pilots looming, there are jobs advertised in FI that you should also be applying to. The main Police and HEMS operators are looking for people on a regular basis and may be interested in somebody like yourself.
Good luck
And remeber if you don't ask you don't get
Left the army myself 2 years ago and was lucky to get straight into work, even had the choice of a number of jobs. You are leaving the army at the right time as there are indications of a shortage of pilots looming, there are jobs advertised in FI that you should also be applying to. The main Police and HEMS operators are looking for people on a regular basis and may be interested in somebody like yourself.
Good luck
And remeber if you don't ask you don't get
Very unlikely to be picked up by a police/hems unit with 1200 hrs and only 300pic. Yo'd probably get work with a charter company, almost certainly - get a JR on your licence. Money would be crap though until you bumped your hours up and moved on.
get the wife to go out to work as well!
better still - marry a working woman!
How old r u?
Do it any way - can't hide in the mil forever!!!!
get the wife to go out to work as well!
better still - marry a working woman!
How old r u?
Do it any way - can't hide in the mil forever!!!!
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Ralphmalph,
Going through the same thing as you, however there are some very helpfull people out there with advice that is well worth listening to. Keep using the old AAC network and don't listen to the "Nay sayers", there is work out there.
Good luck
Going through the same thing as you, however there are some very helpfull people out there with advice that is well worth listening to. Keep using the old AAC network and don't listen to the "Nay sayers", there is work out there.
Good luck
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CPL in 6 months time, job market in 12 months?
Hi all,
Anticipating starting a Mil Bridging Package and being finished in 6 months. Possible to be out of the military in about 12 months with about 3800 hours on various rotary types and roles. What is the general feeling on job prospects throughout the various civil rotary fields and where and what would you guys be recommending I look at?
Regards,
HEDP
Anticipating starting a Mil Bridging Package and being finished in 6 months. Possible to be out of the military in about 12 months with about 3800 hours on various rotary types and roles. What is the general feeling on job prospects throughout the various civil rotary fields and where and what would you guys be recommending I look at?
Regards,
HEDP
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That's a tad unfair. Some poor chap leaves the Services and probably doesn't have any other skills to offer society. Many self-paid civilian pilots do, at least, have another skill on which to fall back.
I'm another CPL(H) hopeful/wannabe but at least I do have another professional qualification and wouldn't want to see anyone out of work when they have families and mortgages to support.
Cheers
Whirls
I'm another CPL(H) hopeful/wannabe but at least I do have another professional qualification and wouldn't want to see anyone out of work when they have families and mortgages to support.
Cheers
Whirls
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HEDP,
I came out of the Mil 15 years ago and walked straight into an oilfield support job with one of the (then) big 3 out of Aberdeen, but there doesn't seem to be the demand there once was, plus they do all sorts of tests to make sure you're not mad nowadays.
Unless you want to use your Mil background for Police/HEMs or the like, that's where the money is.
3800 hours should be enough to get you in as a Captain LHS and on the waiting list for a Command. No idea how long that would take with the (now) big 2.
Good Luck with the exams
NEO
I came out of the Mil 15 years ago and walked straight into an oilfield support job with one of the (then) big 3 out of Aberdeen, but there doesn't seem to be the demand there once was, plus they do all sorts of tests to make sure you're not mad nowadays.
Unless you want to use your Mil background for Police/HEMs or the like, that's where the money is.
3800 hours should be enough to get you in as a Captain LHS and on the waiting list for a Command. No idea how long that would take with the (now) big 2.
Good Luck with the exams
NEO
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HEDP ...
I think the market for you at the moment is just great ...
With your hours and Mil experience operators will find you very useful ...once the Mil edges and attitude have been buffed off!
The civvy field of ops is quite different to Mil Ops so even thou keeping the A/c "right way up" is much the same ...thats about it .
Don't be put off by the bleats of others ... they have to realise that you have (by the looks of it) just done your 10 yr committment.
Good Luck all the best for the New Year
I think the market for you at the moment is just great ...
With your hours and Mil experience operators will find you very useful ...once the Mil edges and attitude have been buffed off!
The civvy field of ops is quite different to Mil Ops so even thou keeping the A/c "right way up" is much the same ...thats about it .
Don't be put off by the bleats of others ... they have to realise that you have (by the looks of it) just done your 10 yr committment.
Good Luck all the best for the New Year