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Old 15th Dec 2004, 18:43
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Another A-Star EMS aircraft crashed in Arizona last night...one dead...two injured. No word on cause yet.
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Old 15th Dec 2004, 20:57
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Looks like there's a bit of a scratch on the skids. Hope the guys alright!
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Old 15th Dec 2004, 21:32
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Also a bit of a scratch to his helmet!!! One lucky chap me thinks.

Dunno if the squippers will try and bill him for one x Mk4 Helmet, blade marks to the top.......

From what I can gather, he (the squirrel stude) is ok. He was by all accounts drinking large quantities of Boddingtons in the bar that night all be it with a bit of a limp.
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Old 15th Dec 2004, 21:49
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"Could this be a case of the dreaded jack stall?"

SASless, I don't think the pilot's name has been released...

P.S. Bearing in mind this is a French aircraft, the name would be Jacques... Jacques Stall.
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then it's a fair bet that this 'student' pulled an armfull of pitch during an 'engine off' when he was somewhat unadjacent to the ground! Probably caught the instructor unaware and the subsequent 'arrival' was inevitable
Letsby, he was solo so I'm sure the instructors intervention would have been more of a 'mind melding operation' than a 'I have control, ****, too late!'

And 'Having done thousands of EOLs in 350s at Ternhill', one would hope you completed RTFQ prior to that!

Nothing like shooting half cocked with an empty mag.

ShyTorque, very droll!!
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Shy....could a Jack Stall be a french name for a dunny?
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Update at BBC News names pilot
Helicopter crash inquiry begins

An inquiry has begun after a helicopter from RAF Shawbury crashed at Tern Hill near Market Drayton on Tuesday.


The Squirrel aircraft from the Defence Helicopter Flying School was being piloted by Sergeant Stephen May who was on a solo training flight.

He was taken to hospital believed to be suffering from a broken leg and other injuries but has since been released.

Chief Flying Instructor at Shawbury, Commander Andy McKie, said the inquiry should not take too long.
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Old 16th Dec 2004, 02:23
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According to the FAA website, the other 350 accident in Arizona is an EMS aircraft N971AE which is Air Evac (PHI).

http://www.faa.gov/avr/aai/K_1215_N.txt
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Old 16th Dec 2004, 05:47
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wg13_dummy - I'll take that on the chin, Must remember RTFQ...
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Old 16th Dec 2004, 12:08
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This'll make a hoofing dit for the bar at wallop! Must have been one hell of a landing! A couple of my oppos have bent squirrels in the past but this pongo has really raised the bar!
Seriously though, glad he wasn't badly hurt and back in the bar that evening!

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Old 19th Dec 2004, 13:51
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...not just tales of 'derring do' in the bar. I understand that he entered the pub where his course mates (and matesses) were, to a spontaneous standing ovation. Big respect!

Just glad the squishy part of the aircraft survived relatively unscathed - metal is easily replaced or fixed, after all.
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OK you DHFS chaps. It's all gone quiet about this 'hard landing'. Now the dust has settled a bit, is anyone able to shed any light as to the cause? J
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 13:41
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The report is just out.

Good, interesting read.

MoD Report: Squirrel HT1 ZJ258

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Old 19th Jun 2006, 15:11
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Did the student get promoted?

BTW, The comment about flying helmets not being fitted properly - what's the story there then? I sincerely hope this isn't an indication of ill advised cost cutting...

Bill Reid presumably retired some years ago.... he might have been a grumpy old so and so but he did know how to fit flying helmets correctly.
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 17:01
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The student's helmet was so badly fitted that it travelled 30 yards (fortunately without his head in it).
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 18:32
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did he pass the course?
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 06:52
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No chopped.
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 07:44
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As an interesting sideline to this incident, and a reminder to all involved in post-crash management, apparently the press were on the scene within 20 minutes!!!

Whilst not exactly at the end of the world, I think you can see it from Ternhill!
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Old 20th Jun 2006, 07:53
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Originally Posted by rich poole
No chopped.
Was his head too small for the helmet then?
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