Hover autos
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From: ireland
Hover autos
just checkin out how many people can do a hover auto?
i done me first one in a h369 yesterday.
there simble but how many actualy no how to do them?
i only have 40 house up and dont even have a ppl so they cant be hard but the amount of people who dont actualy no how to do them and roll there heli or chop the tail is
huge
i done me first one in a h369 yesterday.
there simble but how many actualy no how to do them?
i only have 40 house up and dont even have a ppl so they cant be hard but the amount of people who dont actualy no how to do them and roll there heli or chop the tail is
huge
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From: TI
Don't kid yourself............
Do you mean a power failure in the hover? i.e. In Ground Effect.
If you would have thought about it the aircraft does not enter into autorotation. The aircraft just descends with decaying rotor RPM and you just maintain control. Pretty simple really. BTW just closing the throttle is nowhere near the same as an engine failure. The FCU can only decelerate at a certain rate to avoid flameout.
Download "Unrealistic Practice Autorotations" from here
If you would have thought about it the aircraft does not enter into autorotation. The aircraft just descends with decaying rotor RPM and you just maintain control. Pretty simple really. BTW just closing the throttle is nowhere near the same as an engine failure. The FCU can only decelerate at a certain rate to avoid flameout.
Download "Unrealistic Practice Autorotations" from here
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From: Denver, CO and the GOM
AFAIK, most helicopters, when hovering at their recommended hover height, will make an acceptable landing on hard ground even if the pilot just sits like a statue - certainly the 300CB and R22 will do so (I've demonstrated it), and I've been a passenger in a 206 for the same demo.
The most important things to keep from breaking the helicopter are to avoid ANY backward movement, and to limit as much as possible the yaw and sideways drift, although on a hard surface the yaw is not particularly dangerous. Finally, if you raise the collective too soon or rapidly, you will actually gain altitude (or not descend), then there you are with no RRPM and up in the air, and that can be a real bummer, because the helicopter just falls with nothing to cushion the landing. Crunch.
So, "pedal" (for yaw), "settle" (let the helicopter descend), "pull" (smoothly raise the collective to cushion the last 1' of descent). A little lateral cyclic to keep the helicopter from drifting sideways is icing on the cake!
The most important things to keep from breaking the helicopter are to avoid ANY backward movement, and to limit as much as possible the yaw and sideways drift, although on a hard surface the yaw is not particularly dangerous. Finally, if you raise the collective too soon or rapidly, you will actually gain altitude (or not descend), then there you are with no RRPM and up in the air, and that can be a real bummer, because the helicopter just falls with nothing to cushion the landing. Crunch.
So, "pedal" (for yaw), "settle" (let the helicopter descend), "pull" (smoothly raise the collective to cushion the last 1' of descent). A little lateral cyclic to keep the helicopter from drifting sideways is icing on the cake!
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From: Europe
md 600 driver
With Hover Auto ..... I don’t no ....
Possible is:
A normal autorotation with rpm at top green arc. Touch the ground, lift again and RIGHT 180 deg. turn with a smooth landing.
If you handle it's perfect, the rpm is at the lower green arc just the skids has contact.
That’s no myth. Try it ...
Regards
With Hover Auto ..... I don’t no ....
Possible is:
A normal autorotation with rpm at top green arc. Touch the ground, lift again and RIGHT 180 deg. turn with a smooth landing.
If you handle it's perfect, the rpm is at the lower green arc just the skids has contact.
That’s no myth. Try it ...
Regards
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From: N/A
Nmai, I have just read your three posts. This is a forum for Professional pilots, I get the impression you are neither. I am sure that almost everyone on here is quite likely have more piloting ability in their little finger than you will ever have. Until you have grown up a bit, and prehaps learnt to spell, do not come on here and insult these people's intelligence
HC.
HC.
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From: KLAS/TIST/FAJS/KFAI
Sir HC
"This is a forum for Professional Pilots"
Come on now. We know thats not true. Dont be so Testy, you didnt have to swear an Oath to register here... Lack of Education is one of the main reasons most of us ARE Helicopter Pilots instead of Brain Surgeons.
It could be someone was throwing some bait your way.......
"This is a forum for Professional Pilots"
Come on now. We know thats not true. Dont be so Testy, you didnt have to swear an Oath to register here... Lack of Education is one of the main reasons most of us ARE Helicopter Pilots instead of Brain Surgeons.
It could be someone was throwing some bait your way.......
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From: In my skin, strapped to my Helo...
In S.A, Engine Failure in the Hover gets handled in Ex 15 (emergencies) BEFORE initial solo (ex 16). The student usually have between 15 and 25 hours, NOT 40.
But as some have said, maybe this guy is just pulling the P......S out of all of us
But as some have said, maybe this guy is just pulling the P......S out of all of us
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From: N2832W8100
After reading nmai123456789 other posts, especially the one were he throws the teddies out of the pram at SirHC,
I take back my second part of advice and actually pity your instructor
I take back my second part of advice and actually pity your instructor
Autosync:
either you may want to think about doing something other then flying helicopters or, find a new instructor
either you may want to think about doing something other then flying helicopters or, find a new instructor
