Scout operators in UK
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From: brighton
Scout Leasing in UK
I know that there is a few scouts still flying, i am looking to lease 1 for a day or 2. Does anybody have information on someone who provide me with a scout. This is to fly a large group and not for self flying.
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Last edited by Tony Chambers; 21st September 2004 at 14:03.
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From: Appleby-in-Westmorland Cumbria England
Sure as eggs is eggs, it will be on a permit to fly and so there will be a lot of restrictions on flying about 'large groups'.
I think the Gazelle permit now restricts the aircraft significantly (ie pilot and navigator) and the Scout may be the same (same CAA/ same permit).
Scout only sits four incl pilot and is slow moving.
I think the Gazelle permit now restricts the aircraft significantly (ie pilot and navigator) and the Scout may be the same (same CAA/ same permit).
Scout only sits four incl pilot and is slow moving.
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From: brighton
i thought there would be restrictions but i looking for a scout so i can hopefully give the passengers a doors off experience. i trying to re-enact a vietnam experience (i know te scout wasnt in nam).
i can get a bell47 but lookin for another heli for some pax movements.
i can get a bell47 but lookin for another heli for some pax movements.
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From: Appleby-in-Westmorland Cumbria England
I've mailed you the address of somebody who owns a Scout.
Check out the Permit restrictions before deciding through. You can fly CofA and PT types doors off and the Jet Ranger was in Vietnam.
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Check out the Permit restrictions before deciding through. You can fly CofA and PT types doors off and the Jet Ranger was in Vietnam.
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From: Dansaff
An interesting concept, re enacting a vietnam experience in a Scout
As a young and gung ho soldier I remember the excitement of hanging off the side of a Scout carrying out Eagle patrols in various unfriendly locations. After one fairly aggressive turn by the Pilot I lost my footing off the skid, slid under the rear lap strap and was only saved from a messy end by the quick thinking of my mate who grabbed my arm and pulled me back in. Had my weapon not been attached to my wrist would have lost it. After that I decided I wanted to be the Pilot and went on to get about a thousand hours on the 'Queen of the sky'
I only tell you this as a warning so if you get to fly low level, doors off with a showy PPL be insured!
The restrictions on the use of Scouts for passenger flying is one you should look into but if you do get a trip, enjoy some real aviation how it was meant to be.
As a young and gung ho soldier I remember the excitement of hanging off the side of a Scout carrying out Eagle patrols in various unfriendly locations. After one fairly aggressive turn by the Pilot I lost my footing off the skid, slid under the rear lap strap and was only saved from a messy end by the quick thinking of my mate who grabbed my arm and pulled me back in. Had my weapon not been attached to my wrist would have lost it. After that I decided I wanted to be the Pilot and went on to get about a thousand hours on the 'Queen of the sky'
I only tell you this as a warning so if you get to fly low level, doors off with a showy PPL be insured!
The restrictions on the use of Scouts for passenger flying is one you should look into but if you do get a trip, enjoy some real aviation how it was meant to be.
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From: brighton
thanks people for the replies, all pax will be insured and they wont be doing eagle patrols, they can sit on the back seat as normal.
i know the feeling about taking a tumble during eagle patrols i also did that as a young member of 658 sqn aac.
the scout will be the last resort i have other helis in mind prefer a 212 but they hard to get hold of i can poss get a 214 or s61.
there will also be external loads .
once again thanks for the replies and comments keep em coming.
i know the feeling about taking a tumble during eagle patrols i also did that as a young member of 658 sqn aac.
the scout will be the last resort i have other helis in mind prefer a 212 but they hard to get hold of i can poss get a 214 or s61.
there will also be external loads .
once again thanks for the replies and comments keep em coming.
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If you contact the OC 660 sqn at RAF Shawbury, they have a non flying scout on semi-permanent loan from some guy who bought a bunch off the military. He has at least one in a flying condition and may be able to help you out.
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From: Just over there....no there.
If you want some real 'nam feeling we've got 6 huey's a 212 and a 412 all ready to go! Mind you you'll have to come over to sunny Germany!
let me know if you're interested
Rick
PS I did 4.5 hrs in a scout..nearly got the ticket!
let me know if you're interested
Rick
PS I did 4.5 hrs in a scout..nearly got the ticket!
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"so i can hopefully give the passengers a doors off experience. i trying to re-enact a vietnam experience"
But presumably without being shot at every day for a year, losing their friends left right and center, living in a s**t hole and catching nasty tropical diseases?
Sounds great; I'm sure they'll get a real feel for it...............
But presumably without being shot at every day for a year, losing their friends left right and center, living in a s**t hole and catching nasty tropical diseases?
Sounds great; I'm sure they'll get a real feel for it...............
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Tony, if you want to make it a truly authentic Vietnam experience, dont forget the LSD, man!!
Seriously though, I'm not sure what you plan is within the realms of a helicopter that will be operated on a Permit to Fly. Surely there will be some money changing hands, unless you intend to offer it for free, in which case I'll take the right hand seat, wear a blood stained bandana and have 2 tabs of LSD before I go hurtling down Cirencester High Street with Wagner's Ride of the valkyries playing at full blast!.....Oh sorry, forgot that you wouldnt be able to hear it above the din of the Scout..
Seriously though, I'm not sure what you plan is within the realms of a helicopter that will be operated on a Permit to Fly. Surely there will be some money changing hands, unless you intend to offer it for free, in which case I'll take the right hand seat, wear a blood stained bandana and have 2 tabs of LSD before I go hurtling down Cirencester High Street with Wagner's Ride of the valkyries playing at full blast!.....Oh sorry, forgot that you wouldnt be able to hear it above the din of the Scout..