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Old 24th Jun 2010, 04:16
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A109K2

Hi,
Anyone flown, operated or worked on this type of machine? All comments appreciated.
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 09:36
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Blade folding - fun activity!

'Morning Lady Grey, Hi stace!
Stace is absolutely correct, an LAE or equivalent will have to sign off the fold or deploy of the M/R blades. A duplicate inspection may be carried out by a trained and authorised pilot. BUT

You'll need a few extra hands, and you note that the kit includes a blade pin removal tool. That, from experience, is essential - and you have to have the blade at exactly the right (pre-designed) coning angle to get the damn thing out. And don't forget to set the rotor-brake, or the entire head will rotate on you and sweep you off the transmission deck and wreck a blade as well, likely as not. Might be fun on a deck if there is any swell; no experience of that - yet! (I'd come as Stace's apprentice if you like, even though I'm not in the first flush of youth LOL ) Keep us posted on how the project goes ~ VFR
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Blade folding - NO fun....

Hello VFR,
long time since my first post in November 09...We did a lot of research on that blade folding stuff and came to the same conclusion as you and other professionals...ainīt no fun

So, we decided to forget about that issue and go for a "garage" without folding....

Safe flying, Lady Grey
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Mmmm ....

.....we decided to forget about that issue and go for a "garage" without folding....


Ok .... but I hope you will investigate some form of blade (tip) supporting struts to allow the static rotor system to cope with any inclement sea states which might be encountered whilst the ship is underway ????

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I've been quoted a top straight line speed for this aircraft at 210mph. Is this correct? I'm assuming that's IAS.......

Anyone know?
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Old 20th Jul 2010, 15:53
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A 109S

Vne is 168kts IAS which it can achieve in straight and level flight = 193mph
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Many thanks !
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to be carried out within 5 hours:-
A mistaken value of the tightening torque of the tail rotor special hub plug P/N 109-0133-18-103 has been discovered in the Maintenance Manual of A109A and A109AII helicopters.
The investigation carried out by Agusta has revealed that the wrong value of the tightening torque was introduced with the revision 9 of the A109A and A109AII Helicopter Maintenance Manual dated 15 June 2009. This condition, if not corrected, could ultimately lead to tail rotor failure.
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A109 Grand fire bottle disc

I fly an A109 Grand that keeps popping the red discs but the bottles do not discharge. We are all scratching are heads. Any ideas anyone?
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 16:04
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Ferrchristsakes get that tail rotor balance sorted out!

Not heard of this one before; is it one, or both sides?

Could it be OAT related, if the aircraft is parked in direct sunlight?
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Old 9th Nov 2010, 17:08
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sometimes one side, sometimes both. kept in hangar, temp is around 90 F.
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I wonder if the discs are acting like one-way valves, allowing denser air in during cooler periods but not letting any out again. As the temperature increases, the pressure builds behind them and pops them out.
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109grand

I flty the 109e If the sys is the same I m thiking of 2 things
1- the soft where has to be reloaded becuase it send the massage to the ADU then EDU
2- ther is leekage in the tube
3-gust came the gass on the sensor too old
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Evidently the Kiwi's have just ordered three more LUH's!

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Hello!

any news about the 109 E and S Pilot checklists??

is any official checklist available directly from Agusta?
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Mmmmm ....

You mean there isn't anything in the RFM?







Its usually the job of the Chief Pilot, Chief Instructor (TRI/TRE) or Ops Person, to go through the RFM and make up a suitably practical (and accurate) checklist (and have it approved when necessary) for company pilots to use.
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Its usually the job of the Chief Pilot, Chief Instructor (TRI/TRE) or Ops Person, to go through the RFM and make up a suitably practical (and accurate) checklist (and have it approved when necessary) for company pilots to use.
OK for a company aircraft on an AOC - but what about private owners? It's not unreasonable to expect a manufacturer to do this.
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Mmmm ...

No ... I would think not .... who did your type rating ... a TRI/TRE who should have been able to supply you with an (approved) checklist.

And even as a Private Pilot (and I would hope a quite experienced one) flying this quite sophisticated Helicopter ... you should be able to sit down with the flight manual and make a suitable checklist.

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The trouble is that many of the checklists out there are not approved by the manufacturer and not subject to manufacturer updates.

We have had long discussions about the consequences of following an unapproved checklist, damaging the aircraft and ending up with a refusal for warranty or worse.

Our solution is to make a photocopy of the relevant sections of the flight manual and bind them into manageable flip cards. When Agusta amend the flight manual we amend the cards.

It would be nice if Agusta provided them with the aircraft! Anybody know why they don't?

Bilbo
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