Agusta A109
(damm my spellchecker)
ShyTorque,
8 Flight are assessing a replacement for the 109s and they are looking at all types that meet their requirements. These will be new aircraft fitted as they require and will probably be on the military registry.
It would have to be the S76C++.
FNW
8 Flight are assessing a replacement for the 109s and they are looking at all types that meet their requirements. These will be new aircraft fitted as they require and will probably be on the military registry.
It would have to be the S76C++.
FNW
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Surely whether you are COMR or straight ‘CO’ and commandeered / requisitioned for ‘war time’ duties it is not going to make a lot of difference.
There are some COMR operations, not necessarily in the UK, which have a secondary internal security function. There was an interesting article in one of trade magazines (R&W?) that touched on this subject a few months back.
It seems to me that it is a business model that has yet to be fully developed but one which the financiers are not overly concerned about.
There are some COMR operations, not necessarily in the UK, which have a secondary internal security function. There was an interesting article in one of trade magazines (R&W?) that touched on this subject a few months back.
It seems to me that it is a business model that has yet to be fully developed but one which the financiers are not overly concerned about.
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Agusta "Support"
Does anyone know of where it actually possible to buy spares for the 109, have a tech rep who knows what he is talking about or basicaly get any joy out of anything to do with Agusta at all??? Certinally not from the factory from my experience.
Don't tell me you're flying the Alouette while the nice new 109 is AOG?
What's the charter rate on the old beast if you were getting a chicken+bananas for the the Italian Stallion?
What's the charter rate on the old beast if you were getting a chicken+bananas for the the Italian Stallion?
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Pohm, got an email back from one of your brothers back in blighty that hand out the spare parts today "Sorry about your pump that you ordered we had to give it to a machine in the hangar here that was AOG" WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! What about my chunk of Italian S**T sitting on the ground????????? It's bad enough operating the most unreliable helicopter ever built but then we have to suffer the pains of getting parts to fix the lemon.
But you are right at least the old Alouette keeps on trucking on...
But you are right at least the old Alouette keeps on trucking on...
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A109 Customer Tech Info
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Agusta's "Customer's Technical Information" brochure for the Power and Grand? Our Agusta rep insists its all on the web, but I can't locate it and he didn't have a link for it. Perhaps they don't even make this brochure anymore ... was about a 80-page document if I recall correctly.
Thanks in advance!
Tompkins
Thanks in advance!
Tompkins
Not sure if the brochure you are after is here or not, but have a look anyway.
http://www.agustawestland.com/produc...?id_product=30
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http://www.agustawestland.com/produc...?id_product=30
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http://www.agustawestland.com/dindoc/GrandEng07-06.pdf
http://customersupport.agusta.com/te...505-TR_002.pdf
The first one is pretty and the second might be too in-depth. However, the Agusta website (as opposed to Agusta-Westland) seems to have contact info if you know what it is you're after!
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Whirls
PS - they're biggies so I hope you're not on dial-up!
http://customersupport.agusta.com/te...505-TR_002.pdf
The first one is pretty and the second might be too in-depth. However, the Agusta website (as opposed to Agusta-Westland) seems to have contact info if you know what it is you're after!
Cheers
Whirls
PS - they're biggies so I hope you're not on dial-up!
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Thanks for your help, folks!
We're certainly getting there and are closer than we were before. I wonder if the document I have is something they created special in 2000 for those very interested customers?
We're certainly getting there and are closer than we were before. I wonder if the document I have is something they created special in 2000 for those very interested customers?
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Look what someone is getting for their birthday 
Article in the Metro today :-
Article in the Metro today :-
She'll never guess: A Harrods worker finishes wrapping an Agusta A109 helicopter which a customer bought for his wife. More than 600m of paper and 150 rolls of tape were used
I realise that this article is from The Sun, which bears little resemblance to accurate news, but it infers that it was just a gift wrapped flight, not the whole toy to keep 
Source
Harrods wrap chopper for wife
Anything is possible ... the gift wrapped helicopter
By THOMAS WHITAKER
September 07, 2006
THAT’S some prezzie ... and how long would it to take to unwrap!
A Harrods worker applies sticky tape to a helicopter hired for the day by a romantic businessman.
The unnamed man used the chopper to whisk his missus to The Ritz in Paris for lunch, before returning to Stansted airport, Essex, hours later.
His wife was said to be delighted with her birthday prezzie, which was chartered through the posh London store. It cost £15,000, including the wrapping.
Staff at Harrods’ Anything Is Possible service said the Agusta helicopter is the biggest item they have wrapped — after practising on a small model beforehand.
A Harrods source said: “ A team worked through the night to cover it in 600 metres of red paper and used 150 rolls of sticky tape.”
Anything is possible ... the gift wrapped helicopter
By THOMAS WHITAKER
September 07, 2006
THAT’S some prezzie ... and how long would it to take to unwrap!
A Harrods worker applies sticky tape to a helicopter hired for the day by a romantic businessman.
The unnamed man used the chopper to whisk his missus to The Ritz in Paris for lunch, before returning to Stansted airport, Essex, hours later.
His wife was said to be delighted with her birthday prezzie, which was chartered through the posh London store. It cost £15,000, including the wrapping.
Staff at Harrods’ Anything Is Possible service said the Agusta helicopter is the biggest item they have wrapped — after practising on a small model beforehand.
A Harrods source said: “ A team worked through the night to cover it in 600 metres of red paper and used 150 rolls of sticky tape.”
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A Harrods source said: “ A team worked through the night to cover it in 600 metres of red paper and used 150 rolls of sticky tape.”
Rumour is that the clean up was faster than expected, due to the "twin rubbish shoots" situated at the top of the helicopter...
Creaser
Rumour is that the clean up was faster than expected, due to the "twin rubbish shoots" situated at the top of the helicopter...
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but it infers that it was just a gift wrapped flight, not the whole toy to keep
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REGA orders eight Agusta Grands to replace A109K2s
I see, the Swiss REGA announced today that they will be ordering 8 Agusta Grand helicopters to replace their existing A109K2s. The aircraft are scheduled to be delivered between 2008 and 2009, and were chosen primarily due to their suitability for high altitude mountain rescues.
Source: Rotorhub.com
Source: Rotorhub.com
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Here is some more information about the REGA deal:
Source: Rotorhub.com
AgustaWestland provides further information on REGA Grand order
[Editor Note: Rotorhub.com broke this news item at 06.14 UK time yesterday; the press release below (issued some 11 hours later) adds a little further information to flesh-out the story]
AgustaWestland is proud to announce that eight Grand helicopters will equip the Swiss Air-Rescue, REGA, mountain rescue bases located throughout Switzerland. The Grand has been selected as the best helicopter capable of carrying out high altitude and high temperature rescue missions, following a rigorous evaluation process including test flight activities undertaken by REGA experts. The Grand will also carry out missions such as the rapid transfer of severe injured patients from hospital to hospital providing them with specialised medical treatment in flight.
Speaking after the announcement, Renzo Lunardi, AgustaWestland’s Senior Vice President Sales & Marketing said “We are delighted by the REGA decision to buy the AgustaWestland Grand, which will extend the long and successful collaboration between REGA and ourselves. The Grand is the best performing helicopter in the light twin engine class and will provide REGA an exceptional aircraft.”
The selection of the Grand fits into the legacy established in 1989 when the prestigious Swiss Air-Rescue organisation selected the model A109K2 to perform its demanding mountain rescue missions. While, after twenty years, the A109K2 model remains unmatched by any competitor helicopter in the specific hot/high rescue role, today with the new Grand AgustaWestland provides the marketplace with its worthy, more capable and technologically advanced successor. The Grand configuration for REGA will be specifically equipped to satisfy their demanding requirements as it was for the REGA A109K2s. REGA is acknowledge as one of the most experienced air-rescue organisation worldwide and its choice provides further testimony of the Grand’s performance, versatility and competitiveness.
The Grand is a new top-of-the-range light twin helicopter developed to meet a wide range of market requirements and provides levels of cabin space and payload that until now could only be met by larger, more expensive helicopters. AgustaWestland is committed to provide the marketplace with a modern, comprehensive commercial product line, ranging from single-engine to heavy multi-engine helicopters. This new intermediate size helicopter with light twin economics fits as a natural addition to the product line, at the upper end of the light twin FAR/JAR 27 segment. The Grand’s spacious, unobstructed passenger cabin and a wide sliding cabin door (1.40 m - 4 ft 7in) on both sides, give easy access for passengers, patients and survivors. With its large cabin, wide sliding cabin doors and large useful payload, the Grand sets a new standard in the EMS/air ambulance market with unrivalled characteristics of functional effectiveness compared to any other light twin helicopter. Powered by two PW207C engines, each rated at 716 kW (960 shp) for take-off, the Grand has exceptionally good hot and high performance making it ideal for rescue operations in mountainous environments.
[Editor Note: Rotorhub.com broke this news item at 06.14 UK time yesterday; the press release below (issued some 11 hours later) adds a little further information to flesh-out the story]
AgustaWestland is proud to announce that eight Grand helicopters will equip the Swiss Air-Rescue, REGA, mountain rescue bases located throughout Switzerland. The Grand has been selected as the best helicopter capable of carrying out high altitude and high temperature rescue missions, following a rigorous evaluation process including test flight activities undertaken by REGA experts. The Grand will also carry out missions such as the rapid transfer of severe injured patients from hospital to hospital providing them with specialised medical treatment in flight.
Speaking after the announcement, Renzo Lunardi, AgustaWestland’s Senior Vice President Sales & Marketing said “We are delighted by the REGA decision to buy the AgustaWestland Grand, which will extend the long and successful collaboration between REGA and ourselves. The Grand is the best performing helicopter in the light twin engine class and will provide REGA an exceptional aircraft.”
The selection of the Grand fits into the legacy established in 1989 when the prestigious Swiss Air-Rescue organisation selected the model A109K2 to perform its demanding mountain rescue missions. While, after twenty years, the A109K2 model remains unmatched by any competitor helicopter in the specific hot/high rescue role, today with the new Grand AgustaWestland provides the marketplace with its worthy, more capable and technologically advanced successor. The Grand configuration for REGA will be specifically equipped to satisfy their demanding requirements as it was for the REGA A109K2s. REGA is acknowledge as one of the most experienced air-rescue organisation worldwide and its choice provides further testimony of the Grand’s performance, versatility and competitiveness.
The Grand is a new top-of-the-range light twin helicopter developed to meet a wide range of market requirements and provides levels of cabin space and payload that until now could only be met by larger, more expensive helicopters. AgustaWestland is committed to provide the marketplace with a modern, comprehensive commercial product line, ranging from single-engine to heavy multi-engine helicopters. This new intermediate size helicopter with light twin economics fits as a natural addition to the product line, at the upper end of the light twin FAR/JAR 27 segment. The Grand’s spacious, unobstructed passenger cabin and a wide sliding cabin door (1.40 m - 4 ft 7in) on both sides, give easy access for passengers, patients and survivors. With its large cabin, wide sliding cabin doors and large useful payload, the Grand sets a new standard in the EMS/air ambulance market with unrivalled characteristics of functional effectiveness compared to any other light twin helicopter. Powered by two PW207C engines, each rated at 716 kW (960 shp) for take-off, the Grand has exceptionally good hot and high performance making it ideal for rescue operations in mountainous environments.
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a-109e fadec question
I fly an agusta 109-e (power) with fadec. The system has a setting for torque matching. Normally engine Q stays matched between the egines (within 1 or 2%). The problem occurs on take off. when you pull power up to about 90% the engines begin to flucuate (one will go to about 105% the other drops to around 85%). They continue to oscillate back and forth with each oscillation getting smaller until they eventually even out and then stay matched. No one can seem to figure out the problem. anyone else dealing with this?
Agusta 109E Question
Has anyone experienced engine torque matching fluctuations when increasing the collective to takeoff power? We are seeing plus or minus 5% to 8% fluctuations. It is difficult to determine which engine may be fluctuating and which one may be good but chasing a bad engine control. Thanks in advance for any inputs.
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Apart from the obvious as above and there are no fault codes present (remember the fault codes in the 109E are in volatile memory in the EDU, switch off the master and they are gone for good) Examine the PLA and CLP system.
Is the PLA in the correct position on the FMM for "FLIGHT?" 55 deg +/- 5 deg. OK -> Check CLP system -> Are the CLVDT's (Collective Linear Variable Differential Transformer) functioning correctly? OK -> Examine the aircraft fuel system. OK -> Check the P3 air supply to the FMM. OK -> Replace the FMM
PWC MM 72-00-00
Additionally - why is the Torque/Temp matching option there? The 109 (all models) engines breath differently from left to right - can't remember which but the RFM will tell you. If you are in Q matching you can be deprived of performance from one engine reaching temp limits before the other where temp is the first limit. Flick the switch and you get a little power back
Is the PLA in the correct position on the FMM for "FLIGHT?" 55 deg +/- 5 deg. OK -> Check CLP system -> Are the CLVDT's (Collective Linear Variable Differential Transformer) functioning correctly? OK -> Examine the aircraft fuel system. OK -> Check the P3 air supply to the FMM. OK -> Replace the FMM
PWC MM 72-00-00
Additionally - why is the Torque/Temp matching option there? The 109 (all models) engines breath differently from left to right - can't remember which but the RFM will tell you. If you are in Q matching you can be deprived of performance from one engine reaching temp limits before the other where temp is the first limit. Flick the switch and you get a little power back
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