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Thomas Coupling
Two lines eh!
8 years onshore
6 years offshore
as for a day in the live of MaxNg
I,m on "standby" today
I supose you will be flying as it,s an nice day today
Two lines eh!
8 years onshore
6 years offshore
as for a day in the live of MaxNg
I,m on "standby" today
I supose you will be flying as it,s an nice day today
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Had heard that they're giving some guys they found IR type training, so much for the add in Flight Int this year for Ab Initio sponsorship/prospects. Mind you i bet they were flooded with applicants.
But please be fair, at least most of you have flying jobs/chances of flying jobs, what about the rest of us eh? We can hardly get a look in. Sorry don't mean to be bitchy.
I bet that's blown my chances with them, hope it's anonymous!!!
But please be fair, at least most of you have flying jobs/chances of flying jobs, what about the rest of us eh? We can hardly get a look in. Sorry don't mean to be bitchy.
I bet that's blown my chances with them, hope it's anonymous!!!
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Helislave - a think you are right in that they are sponsoring some guys through their IR's.
No sign of ab-initio this year and no sign of a letter to say thanks but no thanks.
No sign of ab-initio this year and no sign of a letter to say thanks but no thanks.
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I heard from a friend of mine who is joining Bond that Bristow have been carrying out revenue training on the L2 for Bond. Ironically, its for Bristow pilots who have flown the L1 and are defecting to Bond to fly the L2.
Oh Hippolite your friend is telling porkies. Bond hasn't started recruiting line pilots yet and will probably take ex-Bond pilots from Scotia to fill Captain slots with some experienced Scotia Co-pilots for promotion to Captain when the second batch of L2s arrive.
Oh and according to their web site (www.bristowhelicopters.com) Bristow doesn't have any 332L2s!!
HF
Oh and according to their web site (www.bristowhelicopters.com) Bristow doesn't have any 332L2s!!
HF
HF:
Bristows do have one L2 which has been flying a lot lately! It's the Jigsaw aircraft which I believe has completed the trial period for BP and is idle for the moment (even though there is some rumour that it has picked up work somwhere else).
It is also rumoured that this aircraft is actually owned by BP ......... Wouldn't think that a lot of people are deserting Bristows for Bond though unless they get a really good deal (or Command). Anyone know more?
Bristows do have one L2 which has been flying a lot lately! It's the Jigsaw aircraft which I believe has completed the trial period for BP and is idle for the moment (even though there is some rumour that it has picked up work somwhere else).
It is also rumoured that this aircraft is actually owned by BP ......... Wouldn't think that a lot of people are deserting Bristows for Bond though unless they get a really good deal (or Command). Anyone know more?
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HF, the HR woman in Bond's Aberdeen office was able to tell me that they have taken a handful of low hours CPL's who will be starting IR with Cabair (sponsored) in Cranfield early October and they won't be taking any more until next summer as all P1/P2 slots are now full! 
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Oh Oh Hummingfrog......
No porkies, the person in question has accepted a job with Bond and has completed his training on the only 332L2 that Bristow has which is, as Woolf says, G JSAR which hasn't been working much offshore lately.
The aircraft is not owned by BP but by Bristow.
No porkies, the person in question has accepted a job with Bond and has completed his training on the only 332L2 that Bristow has which is, as Woolf says, G JSAR which hasn't been working much offshore lately.
The aircraft is not owned by BP but by Bristow.
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Bond offshore pay and conditions
A couple of years ago, when the merger between Bond and BIH to form Scotia occured, for the first time the pilots of Scotia and Bristows really got their collective acts together. This has resulted in a reasonably level playing field in terms of pay between the 2 companies. The pay rise was only gained after a hard, drawn out period of negotiations involving BALPA, cummulating in a stike ballot at Scotia which was supported by 78% of those balloted.
With a third company coming back into operation, based on past experience, there is the very real possibility over the coming years that pay and conditions will once more be dragged down to the lowest common denominator. This is in no pilots' interest.
Bearing that in mind, I feel the new pilots coming to the north sea should be aware of the aprroximate pay scales being used by Scotia and Bristows. Hopefully this will help the new north sea pilots get a fair deal for themselves.
The co-pilot scale ranges from £31000 (less than 500 hours) up to £49000 (4 year SFO(3000 hours plus)) with £50000 LOL
Captain pay scale ranges from £59500 to £77000 with £100000 LOL
Any one got any info on the Bond offshore pay and conditions????
With a third company coming back into operation, based on past experience, there is the very real possibility over the coming years that pay and conditions will once more be dragged down to the lowest common denominator. This is in no pilots' interest.
Bearing that in mind, I feel the new pilots coming to the north sea should be aware of the aprroximate pay scales being used by Scotia and Bristows. Hopefully this will help the new north sea pilots get a fair deal for themselves.
The co-pilot scale ranges from £31000 (less than 500 hours) up to £49000 (4 year SFO(3000 hours plus)) with £50000 LOL
Captain pay scale ranges from £59500 to £77000 with £100000 LOL
Any one got any info on the Bond offshore pay and conditions????
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Well said Jigsawjockey !
It's about time we got more of this kind of thing out into the open.
I can't think why, but something about your handle makes me think you were a pilot on the recent BP offshore SAR trial although your profile would suggest otherwise ( the tangled web we weave ) If you were on Jigsaw, do you know what is going to happen next ?
Are BP going to commit to Jigsaw ?
Will Bristows get the contract ?
Could any of the other North sea operators do the job ?
I'm sure that I'm not the only person out here who's interested in this topic.
It's about time we got more of this kind of thing out into the open.
I can't think why, but something about your handle makes me think you were a pilot on the recent BP offshore SAR trial although your profile would suggest otherwise ( the tangled web we weave ) If you were on Jigsaw, do you know what is going to happen next ?
Are BP going to commit to Jigsaw ?
Will Bristows get the contract ?
Could any of the other North sea operators do the job ?
I'm sure that I'm not the only person out here who's interested in this topic.
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Thanks a lot for the encouraging reply, pay half........as for your questions, what makes you think that pilots involved in the BP SAR would be kept any more in the loop of contract awards than those not invovled????
Heard from a bp OIM that bp were going ahead with the building (in Korea) of the Jigsaw rescue boats but he didn't have any info on the helicopter side of Jigsaw. As an interested party I hope Jigsaw is implemented but I'm not holding my breath.
On the pay front I believe most of Bond's pilot work force will be ex Bond/Scotia/Bristow so will be well aware of the going rate for a N Sea pilot.
HF
On the pay front I believe most of Bond's pilot work force will be ex Bond/Scotia/Bristow so will be well aware of the going rate for a N Sea pilot.
HF
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Oh go on Jigsawjockey !
I'm a bit of a Pprune virgin, but surely you can dish out a bit of info without compromising yourself ?
I have heard it said that Bristows will not get the contract if BP do go ahead. What are your thoughts on that? If for instance Bond were given the work, do you think they will have the expertise and indeed the CAA's approval to do that kind of work?
I'm a bit of a Pprune virgin, but surely you can dish out a bit of info without compromising yourself ?
I have heard it said that Bristows will not get the contract if BP do go ahead. What are your thoughts on that? If for instance Bond were given the work, do you think they will have the expertise and indeed the CAA's approval to do that kind of work?
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Well said Mr Jig.
Just hope that any newbie co joes they recruit dont take a lower salary simply because they are greatful for a job and IR. Once the novelty wears off they will be looking over the Aberdeen runway and wondering why they are being paid less than Bristow / Scotia FOs.
Just hope that any newbie co joes they recruit dont take a lower salary simply because they are greatful for a job and IR. Once the novelty wears off they will be looking over the Aberdeen runway and wondering why they are being paid less than Bristow / Scotia FOs.
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Good one jigsawjockey
Nice one Jig, a bit of info sharing between the pilots, both extablished north sea pilots and new ones coming up, can only be a good thing.
I'm interested to see if you can answer questions posed by payhalf about the SAR contracts................any extra info would be great
I'm interested to see if you can answer questions posed by payhalf about the SAR contracts................any extra info would be great
It might be a coincidence, but BP did advertise (for the first time in years) for an aviation advisor in Flight about 3 months ago. Might this be to do with preparing the ground for Jigsaw?
Anyone know who got the job?
How will Bond justify hiking their pay scales to a competitive level for their offshore drivers, when they have been used to mediocre salaries for too long?
Just curious, you understand..................
Anyone know who got the job?
How will Bond justify hiking their pay scales to a competitive level for their offshore drivers, when they have been used to mediocre salaries for too long?
Just curious, you understand..................
My information is that there are 3 captain scales: £58,500, £66,000 and £74,000. A 'performance' bonus on top at the end of the year and some money purchase pension arrangement. The experienced guys are joining at the middle band. I assume co-pilots are on a similar deal.
So, not vastly different I think.
So, not vastly different I think.
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TC - I believe the BP Adviser post is essentially to replace 'KG' who retired earlier in the year and is to cover Europe (thus including BOH) and Africa - no Jigsaw connection. From what my contacts at BP say, the second round of interviews were being held a week ago.
Mikilia1A - Jigsaw was a trial, recently finished which included a new Bristow AS332L2 G-JSAR, to evaluate the practicality of using 4 offshore based and 2 shore based SAR helicopters to complement/replace old style stand by vessels for BP. Lots of references in past posts.
Results generally considered good, with 'rescues' demonstrated in extreme wave heights close to rigs, but reduced BP operations in North Sea may make it less likely without teaming between oil companies, and the new broom at UKOOA is pushing that organisation away from coordinating practical matters like SAR ops.
Any new appointments at BOH?
Mikilia1A - Jigsaw was a trial, recently finished which included a new Bristow AS332L2 G-JSAR, to evaluate the practicality of using 4 offshore based and 2 shore based SAR helicopters to complement/replace old style stand by vessels for BP. Lots of references in past posts.
Results generally considered good, with 'rescues' demonstrated in extreme wave heights close to rigs, but reduced BP operations in North Sea may make it less likely without teaming between oil companies, and the new broom at UKOOA is pushing that organisation away from coordinating practical matters like SAR ops.
Any new appointments at BOH?