View Poll Results: Will you attend the Great Barrier Reef Helicopter Conference?
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Helicopter Conference at Great Barrier Reef
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Helo Conference on Great Barrier Reef.
Gentlemen, and I use that term loosely. 
I am in the process of arranging, with two other companies, a global helicopter industry symposium at Hamilton Island on the Great Barrier Reef, same location as those latest images on the rotorheads at work thread, and want some feedback from you all as to what sort of seminars would interest you.
If you could post your reply and say what seminars would attract you, as an owner, Chief Pilot, operator, line pilot, Dir of Ops, Dir of Maintenance etc it would be very helpful and appreciated as we are finalising the itinerary now. The conference is going to cover all segments of the industry including both operations side and maintenance side.
It is going to be in July of 2005 and will be strictly seminars and no trade stands or displays etc. Thanks for your input and appreciate any and all responses.
Ned.
I am in the process of arranging, with two other companies, a global helicopter industry symposium at Hamilton Island on the Great Barrier Reef, same location as those latest images on the rotorheads at work thread, and want some feedback from you all as to what sort of seminars would interest you.
If you could post your reply and say what seminars would attract you, as an owner, Chief Pilot, operator, line pilot, Dir of Ops, Dir of Maintenance etc it would be very helpful and appreciated as we are finalising the itinerary now. The conference is going to cover all segments of the industry including both operations side and maintenance side.
It is going to be in July of 2005 and will be strictly seminars and no trade stands or displays etc. Thanks for your input and appreciate any and all responses.
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Sounds cool, but it would be great if you had something of interest to the PPL/CPL/CFI, as well. Perhaps a job fair at the end? Perhaps a mini safety course or series of seminars that provide specialized training not usually found elsewhere. Oh ya, it would be cool to have a flying competition... something slow and safe; perhaps long line accuracy or putting rings on your skids. Whatever you do, it's gotta be enough for me to convince the wife that this is a once and a lifetime opportunity... that way, I can convince her that we need to take a vacation to Australia during the conference! 
Neville,
First, not in Queensland (again....), and especially not on Hamilton. Thanks anyway
Seminars? Certainly something from the manufactures covering not just future trends, but something interactive so that they listen to us (the pilots and maintainers). How some cockpit environments get past OH & S these days
Safety and operating issues are always worth while, but need to be pitched in a more practical manner. Turning up to be "lectured" on issues never appeals to me, but someone with the runs on the board, who knows the way that things are done, as opposed to should be done, will get listened to, IMHO.
First, not in Queensland (again....), and especially not on Hamilton. Thanks anyway
Seminars? Certainly something from the manufactures covering not just future trends, but something interactive so that they listen to us (the pilots and maintainers). How some cockpit environments get past OH & S these days
Safety and operating issues are always worth while, but need to be pitched in a more practical manner. Turning up to be "lectured" on issues never appeals to me, but someone with the runs on the board, who knows the way that things are done, as opposed to should be done, will get listened to, IMHO.
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John,
We have got some tremendous support from Hamilton Island so the venue will not be changing from there. Some might like it, some might not. However its a great venue with great facilities.
In regards to the seminars, you say someone with runs on the board, give me some examples. Remember the conference we are putting together is for the benefit of the industry, and that includes yourself, so the more info you can give me with what you want to see, and be a part of, the easier it will make our job.
Thanks,
Ned
We have got some tremendous support from Hamilton Island so the venue will not be changing from there. Some might like it, some might not. However its a great venue with great facilities.
In regards to the seminars, you say someone with runs on the board, give me some examples. Remember the conference we are putting together is for the benefit of the industry, and that includes yourself, so the more info you can give me with what you want to see, and be a part of, the easier it will make our job.
Thanks,
Ned
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At least one seminar has to be safety related, and educational as well so we can claim it back on tax...
One of the better parts of the factory safety courses has always been the engineering section. What you get is a top helicopter design or maintenance engineer talking in ways that pilots can follow.
Machines get more complicated, and pilots are knowing less and less about the nuts and bolts of their craft. I would think that a Bell 47 or Huey pilot of the mid sixties knew vastly more about his machine that we do today.
Is it important? I think so. The more you know the more you can report to the mechanic, and the more likely you are to pick up a problem before it becomes one.
So something along the lines of a well known and respected maintenance engineer talking about things that we all should know - not necessarily type specific. Also a well known design engineer talking about why he made it that way. If you want names, look to the best we have on this forum.
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One of the better parts of the factory safety courses has always been the engineering section. What you get is a top helicopter design or maintenance engineer talking in ways that pilots can follow.
Machines get more complicated, and pilots are knowing less and less about the nuts and bolts of their craft. I would think that a Bell 47 or Huey pilot of the mid sixties knew vastly more about his machine that we do today.
Is it important? I think so. The more you know the more you can report to the mechanic, and the more likely you are to pick up a problem before it becomes one.
So something along the lines of a well known and respected maintenance engineer talking about things that we all should know - not necessarily type specific. Also a well known design engineer talking about why he made it that way. If you want names, look to the best we have on this forum.
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How about something on how to deal with the media/journalists when they call....a kind of 'know your rights' thing.
Then there's how to handle and, dare I say, use your local media to project the positive side of what you do day-to-day. A little PR can go a long, long way in this business.
You include it Autorotate and I'll run it, if you want.
Dan
Then there's how to handle and, dare I say, use your local media to project the positive side of what you do day-to-day. A little PR can go a long, long way in this business.
You include it Autorotate and I'll run it, if you want.
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Moosp - There will be quite a few safety related seminars, covering CRM, Human Factors, Risk Management etc etc.
When you say engineers giving their presentation, what specific type subjects would they elaborate on in their presentation. This will allow me to look into this further.
Dan - Have also got a couple of seminars on that train of thought. Why positive coverage is beneficial, how to work with the media etc etc. Expect an email or PM soon on that one.
Although dates are not finalised, which dates would work best for US, Canada and Europe. May or August time frames.
Thanks for the feedback guys and look forward to hearing from you.
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When you say engineers giving their presentation, what specific type subjects would they elaborate on in their presentation. This will allow me to look into this further.
Dan - Have also got a couple of seminars on that train of thought. Why positive coverage is beneficial, how to work with the media etc etc. Expect an email or PM soon on that one.
Although dates are not finalised, which dates would work best for US, Canada and Europe. May or August time frames.
Thanks for the feedback guys and look forward to hearing from you.
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Following on from moosp's suggestion, hows about an engineering test pilot.
I've heard Nick Lappos is a top speaker who talks engineering in a way pilots understand and in ways that apply to pilots when operating. There's nobody in the world who knows more about the 76 or 92 than Nick.
Or maybe Rich Lee? His posts here are real good.
I've heard Nick Lappos is a top speaker who talks engineering in a way pilots understand and in ways that apply to pilots when operating. There's nobody in the world who knows more about the 76 or 92 than Nick.
Or maybe Rich Lee? His posts here are real good.
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Bronx - Thought long and hard about that and decided that if we have displays etc then it becomes the same as a Heli Expo, ALEA, AAMS, of Heli Asia exhibition.
If there are just seminars then there is nothing to detract ones attention away from the seminars. As well as having the seminars we also have a couple of half day trips scheduled to Reef World where people can go diving, and a lunch on Whitehaven Beach which is an awesome place.
Between the seminars and the social program its going to be full on and besides the venue doesnt really allow for a number of large displays. Drop me a PM and will email you the seminar schedule as we have it so far.
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P.S. Weather on the Great Barrier Reef is great nearly all of the time.
If there are just seminars then there is nothing to detract ones attention away from the seminars. As well as having the seminars we also have a couple of half day trips scheduled to Reef World where people can go diving, and a lunch on Whitehaven Beach which is an awesome place.
Between the seminars and the social program its going to be full on and besides the venue doesnt really allow for a number of large displays. Drop me a PM and will email you the seminar schedule as we have it so far.
Ned
P.S. Weather on the Great Barrier Reef is great nearly all of the time.
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Autorotate,
I didn't want to get too type specific but for instance, the presentation given by Robinson at Torrance by their senior engineer, Pat Cox is invaluable to pilots. There are enough Robbo drivers in Oz to warrant that alone. (His excess baggage charges from LAX of bits we've broken over the years might be eye-watering...)
But there may be a more general subject for the turbine fraternity from someone who works on the bigger ships, detailing what he's found being broken by us most often, and what he thinks we can do to lessen his frustrations. Engines that have a history of hot starts. Is it us or the engines? Gearboxes pulled before time - is it us or the design? Crack propagation and how we can sometimes be the first to spot it. And so on.
Mostly we work in isolation and only get to hear of these things through accident reports. Maybe we can hear of them before that stage.
I'm a bit wooly myself on what it might be, but with the right guy it should be great gen.
Bronx,
Yes, those were a couple of the names that not so much sprang to mind as boinged like a clock in a blender.
I didn't want to get too type specific but for instance, the presentation given by Robinson at Torrance by their senior engineer, Pat Cox is invaluable to pilots. There are enough Robbo drivers in Oz to warrant that alone. (His excess baggage charges from LAX of bits we've broken over the years might be eye-watering...)
But there may be a more general subject for the turbine fraternity from someone who works on the bigger ships, detailing what he's found being broken by us most often, and what he thinks we can do to lessen his frustrations. Engines that have a history of hot starts. Is it us or the engines? Gearboxes pulled before time - is it us or the design? Crack propagation and how we can sometimes be the first to spot it. And so on.
Mostly we work in isolation and only get to hear of these things through accident reports. Maybe we can hear of them before that stage.
I'm a bit wooly myself on what it might be, but with the right guy it should be great gen.
Bronx,
Yes, those were a couple of the names that not so much sprang to mind as boinged like a clock in a blender.
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I'm very tempted. Good excuse to visit Australia.
Is July fixed? I read somewhere you were thinking of sometime May-August.
July is mid-winter in Australia so if foreign visitors want to explore further South to Sydney, Melbourne etc May or June would be better.
July is also a busier time for many North American pilots than May or June.
Also July is high season for air fares.
Just my two cents for you to think about.
Hope it's some help.
B.
Is July fixed? I read somewhere you were thinking of sometime May-August.
July is mid-winter in Australia so if foreign visitors want to explore further South to Sydney, Melbourne etc May or June would be better.
July is also a busier time for many North American pilots than May or June.
Also July is high season for air fares.
Just my two cents for you to think about.
Hope it's some help.
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Safety Courses
HAA can provide a one day Robinson Safety Course for Robbies.
Also, I know a really whiz engineer who can really strut his stuff about general and pilot maintenance stuff.
There are 480 Robinsons in Oz out of the 1,200 on the register.
So there is a good deal of experience around.
Conference sounds great
Maybe one day for drivers about flying and one day for pilots and engineers.
Also, I know a really whiz engineer who can really strut his stuff about general and pilot maintenance stuff.
There are 480 Robinsons in Oz out of the 1,200 on the register.
So there is a good deal of experience around.
Conference sounds great
Maybe one day for drivers about flying and one day for pilots and engineers.
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For those that might be interested we have finalised the dates as starting the 21st of March and running through till the 25th. Now here is another question for you.
The registration fee is going to be around $1500 Aussie dollars and that includes entry to all the seminars, approx 15 - 18 seminars per day, all breakfasts, morning Teas, lunches, afternoon teas, dinners and all alcohol at the functions every evening for the whole five days of the conference. Also includes a half day trip out to Reefworld to experience snorkelling and diving on the Great Barrier Reef.
Now I would like to know if you consider that expensive and if that would prohibit you from attending. We are also working with the airlines to get some great discounts on airline fares from all corners of the world.
Look forward to your feedback.
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The registration fee is going to be around $1500 Aussie dollars and that includes entry to all the seminars, approx 15 - 18 seminars per day, all breakfasts, morning Teas, lunches, afternoon teas, dinners and all alcohol at the functions every evening for the whole five days of the conference. Also includes a half day trip out to Reefworld to experience snorkelling and diving on the Great Barrier Reef.
Now I would like to know if you consider that expensive and if that would prohibit you from attending. We are also working with the airlines to get some great discounts on airline fares from all corners of the world.
Look forward to your feedback.
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What about accomodations & travel? If you could work out deals with a hotel and provide shuttle services from there to the conference, that would be good. Perhaps you should put up a temporary website for this conference (schedule of events, speakers, local information, things for family to do while the pilots are at conference, etc)? Also, you should put a "who's, who" database together for conference participants... for the attendies that authorize it during registration, you could put together a list for distribution (name, company name, company background, phone, & e-mail). Of course, if there is free alcohol for the week - the family stays home! 
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Great Barrier Reef Conference - Poll (Would You Attend)
Hey all, Here is what we have come up with and need to get a yes or no answer from you all. The facts so far are as follows:
Venue: Hamilton Island Resort, Great Barrier Reef, Queensland, Australia.
Dates: 21 - 25th March 2005
Seminars: Total of approx 15 seminars per day x 5 days = 75 seminars to choose from. Includes safety, operations, different sectors of the industry, legal, marketing, basically there are seminars to cover all areas of the civil helo industry.
Costs: Registration Fee is currently around $1400 Aussie Dollars but working on reducing this to around $1200 Aussie dollars.
Includes -
* Access to all seminars.
* All your breakfasts.
* All Morning Teas
* All Lunches
* All Afternoon Teas
* All Dinners except for one evening.
* Four evening functions, dinner & Drinks.
* All Alcohol at all evening functions.
* Half Day trip out to Reefworld to snorkel and dive on the Hardy Reef.
* Attendee Bag with shirt, cap, goodies etc.
Accommodation: Five night accom package for $1000 Aussie Dollars.
Airline discounts are being worked on as we speak.
So tell me would you personally attend this event. A simple yes or no would be appreciated. We are trying to make this a must not miss event and something we can do every couple of years just to bring the industry together to network in a great casual location.
Look forward to your replies of yes or no.
Ned
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Venue: Hamilton Island Resort, Great Barrier Reef, Queensland, Australia.
Dates: 21 - 25th March 2005
Seminars: Total of approx 15 seminars per day x 5 days = 75 seminars to choose from. Includes safety, operations, different sectors of the industry, legal, marketing, basically there are seminars to cover all areas of the civil helo industry.
Costs: Registration Fee is currently around $1400 Aussie Dollars but working on reducing this to around $1200 Aussie dollars.
Includes -
* Access to all seminars.
* All your breakfasts.
* All Morning Teas
* All Lunches
* All Afternoon Teas
* All Dinners except for one evening.
* Four evening functions, dinner & Drinks.
* All Alcohol at all evening functions.
* Half Day trip out to Reefworld to snorkel and dive on the Hardy Reef.
* Attendee Bag with shirt, cap, goodies etc.
Accommodation: Five night accom package for $1000 Aussie Dollars.
Airline discounts are being worked on as we speak.
So tell me would you personally attend this event. A simple yes or no would be appreciated. We are trying to make this a must not miss event and something we can do every couple of years just to bring the industry together to network in a great casual location.
Look forward to your replies of yes or no.
Ned
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Hamilton Island is situated in the heart of the Whitsundays and is one of 74 tropical islands that lie between the Queensland Coast and the Great Barrier Reef.
Wonderful opportunity to visit one of the most beautiful areas of the world and to meet other Rotorheads.
Approximate currency conversions at today's exchange rates,
2400 Australian Dollars (Registration & Accommodation):
NB:Take into account tax relief if you're self-employed!
= $1677 US
= $2751 NZ
= $2300 Canada
= £938 UK
= 1396 Euros
= $1395 (HK)
= 19400 Pesos (Mexico)
= R11315 South Africa
= L2,715,000 Italy
Since these figures were prepared, the cost of registration has been reduced. Deduct AUS$750 from the figures.
