View Poll Results: Will you attend the Great Barrier Reef Helicopter Conference?
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Helicopter Conference at Great Barrier Reef
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Thanks Spaced.
I've changed the typo. Very early hours of the morning here - haven't got my brain in gear yet!
The Oz dollar probably will get a boost after we've visited for the Conference!
I've changed the typo. Very early hours of the morning here - haven't got my brain in gear yet!
The Oz dollar probably will get a boost after we've visited for the Conference!
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With an airfare on top of that it's either too much money to pay out of your own pocket or too much of a vacation to have your employer paying for it.
Why don't you put it closer to where more helicopter pilots are operating? Somewhere in Europe would do and if you're in a city you don't need to arrange a social event each and every day.
If you want to make it "a must not miss event" I think you should reconsider location.. or at least put the emphasis on the conference and not on the vacation package.
Why don't you put it closer to where more helicopter pilots are operating? Somewhere in Europe would do and if you're in a city you don't need to arrange a social event each and every day.
If you want to make it "a must not miss event" I think you should reconsider location.. or at least put the emphasis on the conference and not on the vacation package.
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In fairness to Autorotate, I posted the 'vacation' pics - it's such a beautiful part of the world.
I'm sure he'll post more details of the conference as they are organised. This is very early days yet.
BTW, on the previous thread, Ned invited people to suggest topics they'd like to be in the programme.
I'm sure he'd welcome ideas from you or anyone else.
Heliport
In fairness to Autorotate, I posted the 'vacation' pics - it's such a beautiful part of the world.
I'm sure he'll post more details of the conference as they are organised. This is very early days yet.
BTW, on the previous thread, Ned invited people to suggest topics they'd like to be in the programme.
I'm sure he'd welcome ideas from you or anyone else.
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For those that have asked, especially Martin1234, here is the list of seminars we have pencilled in so far. I would welcome more input from the members here. So as you can see its not just a vacation but a heavy schedule of seminars.
Bringing Associations Together
Welcome Function
Director of Maintenance Roundtable
Chief Pilot Roundtable
Flight Training Roundtable
Offshore Operations
Working in the Wire Environment
CRM for the Single Pilot Cockpit
Civil Use of Ex Military Aircraft
Tourism Roundtable
NVG Operations
CRM for the Multi Crew Cockpit
How To Use The Internet
Insurance - Australia vs Global
SAR Roundtable
Working The Fire Line
Marketing Your Company
Flight & Duty Times
Maint & Management Working As One
Bell Product Briefing
Schweizer Product Briefing
Lycoming Product Briefing
Turbomeca Product Briefing
Robinson Product Briefing
Eurocopter Product Briefing
Sikorsky Product Briefing
Pratt & Whitney Product Briefing
Agusta Product Briefing
Bell/Agusta Product Briefing
Rolls Royce Product Briefing
Enstrom Product Briefing
Hoist Users Roundtable
Night Operations - Making Them Safer
Fatigue Management in Maint Operations
Safety in Day to Day Operations
Risk Management
Long Lining & External Load Operations
Human Factors Course
Night VFR - Accidents & Lessons Learnt
Human Factors in Night Flying
EMS Funding - Where To Get It.
CASA - New Helo Regulations
Supplier Product Briefings
Employment Briefings - Who Needs What
So this is what we have so far. Its a pretty full on schedule for the week and the reason for the half day trip to the reef was to break it up and make it not so full on for the whole week, besides its a great chance to enjoy the benefits and wonders of the Great Barrier Reef.
Comments Welcome.
Ned
Bringing Associations Together
Welcome Function
Director of Maintenance Roundtable
Chief Pilot Roundtable
Flight Training Roundtable
Offshore Operations
Working in the Wire Environment
CRM for the Single Pilot Cockpit
Civil Use of Ex Military Aircraft
Tourism Roundtable
NVG Operations
CRM for the Multi Crew Cockpit
How To Use The Internet
Insurance - Australia vs Global
SAR Roundtable
Working The Fire Line
Marketing Your Company
Flight & Duty Times
Maint & Management Working As One
Bell Product Briefing
Schweizer Product Briefing
Lycoming Product Briefing
Turbomeca Product Briefing
Robinson Product Briefing
Eurocopter Product Briefing
Sikorsky Product Briefing
Pratt & Whitney Product Briefing
Agusta Product Briefing
Bell/Agusta Product Briefing
Rolls Royce Product Briefing
Enstrom Product Briefing
Hoist Users Roundtable
Night Operations - Making Them Safer
Fatigue Management in Maint Operations
Safety in Day to Day Operations
Risk Management
Long Lining & External Load Operations
Human Factors Course
Night VFR - Accidents & Lessons Learnt
Human Factors in Night Flying
EMS Funding - Where To Get It.
CASA - New Helo Regulations
Supplier Product Briefings
Employment Briefings - Who Needs What
So this is what we have so far. Its a pretty full on schedule for the week and the reason for the half day trip to the reef was to break it up and make it not so full on for the whole week, besides its a great chance to enjoy the benefits and wonders of the Great Barrier Reef.
Comments Welcome.
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Sounds like a worthwhile initiative... I'd be hard pressed to fit in all the seminars available.
I'll be there but understand the cost and distance issues for the Northerners
Sounds like a worthwhile initiative... I'd be hard pressed to fit in all the seminars available.
I'll be there but understand the cost and distance issues for the Northerners
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Ned I don't think you needed to jump down my throat quite like that. You asked for some feedback. The company won't pay and I can't afford it, it's simple. I'll tell you what, I won't bother with your surveys in future if you don't want!
p.s. good luck with the event.
p.s. good luck with the event.
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A suggestion
Autorotate - $1500 AUD sounds reasonable. What about a private owners/pilots stream? Private pilots and owners tend to want to fly to heli friendly places around the world (I know you have great wilderness to fly to in Australia). They may want to discuss about shipping their aircraft overseas, getting info on maps, procedures, legal requirements, etc. They want to swap GPS info on great landing spots and meet other private owners around the world. Kinda like adventurers meeting other adventurers and chewing the fat.
Private owners also don't get too hung up about whether it is safe to disembark an R22 whilst hovering in a mountain slope, or whether you ought to sleep another 12 seconds or you'll exceed duty times, or whether the 3rd wheel in a miniturbine if bent 4 microns to the left will affect weather patterns in Brazil, etc etc. In other words, the usual commercial type talk may not appeal to any of us. Some subjects bore me to tears at HAI.
You may get a new type of attendees, and increase the size of your conference. Just a thought.
thanks,
WB
ps Maybe that famous Australian private pilot Dick Smith can give a talk on his many trips to the North Pole, Antartica, around the world?
Private owners also don't get too hung up about whether it is safe to disembark an R22 whilst hovering in a mountain slope, or whether you ought to sleep another 12 seconds or you'll exceed duty times, or whether the 3rd wheel in a miniturbine if bent 4 microns to the left will affect weather patterns in Brazil, etc etc. In other words, the usual commercial type talk may not appeal to any of us. Some subjects bore me to tears at HAI.
You may get a new type of attendees, and increase the size of your conference. Just a thought.
thanks,
WB
ps Maybe that famous Australian private pilot Dick Smith can give a talk on his many trips to the North Pole, Antartica, around the world?
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Warren - Thanks for the feedback. So tell me then, if you could have three seminars dedicated to the private owner/pilot then what would be the best ones to include.
Also would the private owners seminars be Australian specific or global.
Thanks for the feedback and the registration fee is slowly coming down. We have it down to $1100 AUD so far thanks to sponsorship and I envisage having it come down to $750 AUD.
Ned
Also would the private owners seminars be Australian specific or global.
Thanks for the feedback and the registration fee is slowly coming down. We have it down to $1100 AUD so far thanks to sponsorship and I envisage having it come down to $750 AUD.
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My thoughts on what interests private owners
Thanks Autorotate. I feel private owners all around the world should be invited. Firstly, I'll list the things that I think interests private owners, then try to put these thoughts into 3 seminars:
Things that interests private owners:
1. People and places that they can go to in their choppers to visit. For example, great restaurants, camping sites, private resorts, fishing spots, other private owners' ranch or homes, hunting spots, landing in wild places, accomodation that are heli friendly, etc. I heard of a private pilot who flew his Jetranger from Argentina to Alaska. He could throw light on clearing customs, great places to stop at etc. Maybe there is someone who has flown from Hobart to Thursday Island in your country too who could talk about their experiences and provide tips of getting services like 100 hourlies, places to dive, etc. I know there's a private owne who has flown around bits of China and Mongolia in a Squirrel who would be interesting to talk to.
2. Shipping a helicopter say from NYC to Auckland - the pitfalls, costs, contacts when you get there. There are many ways you can ship a helicopter, of course, and owners could discuss this. Formalities needed. Insurance, etc.
3. Safety around helicopters when you fly with infants, little children and dogs or cats.
4. Auxilliary Tanks. Many private owners doing long cross country trips can't access aux tanks easily. Maybe a renting service can be provided by someone.
5. Handling corrupt custom officials - how to handle bribes, pay off police, etc especially in Mexico, parts of South America, Africa, Indonesia or Philippines or in other corrupt countries if you are crossing international boundaries.
6. Listening to talks by Ron Bower or Dick Smith or Ross Perot Jr or Jenny Murray on their epic trips.
7. Private Pilot's perspective of a helicopter, eg comfort, speed, airconditioning, autopilots, range, TV/DVD/Nintendo set-up for children, FBO's at airports that are private pilot friendly, getting emergency mechanic service if needed, cost of operations where flight hours per year are low, etc. In addition, luggage perspective (eg belly cargo pod, space extenders, skid mounted pods, etc).
8. Filing flight plans in various countries, use of HF or VHF radios, voice procedures that are different.
9. Landing techniques for beaches, snow, waterfalls, pressure height considerations, etc
This list is not complete and I invite others to contribute.
Three possible streams are:
1. 2 or 3 world adventurers speeches and Q&A
2. Long International or just cross country flights. Shipping a chopper, getting it ferry flighted, etc.
3. Safety from a private owner's perspective.
Just my thoughts to give to you Autorotate, a different perspective. Of course, commercial pilots are invited along as well so long as they are constructive on our type of flying.
Hope this helps and good luck with your conference.
WB
Things that interests private owners:
1. People and places that they can go to in their choppers to visit. For example, great restaurants, camping sites, private resorts, fishing spots, other private owners' ranch or homes, hunting spots, landing in wild places, accomodation that are heli friendly, etc. I heard of a private pilot who flew his Jetranger from Argentina to Alaska. He could throw light on clearing customs, great places to stop at etc. Maybe there is someone who has flown from Hobart to Thursday Island in your country too who could talk about their experiences and provide tips of getting services like 100 hourlies, places to dive, etc. I know there's a private owne who has flown around bits of China and Mongolia in a Squirrel who would be interesting to talk to.
2. Shipping a helicopter say from NYC to Auckland - the pitfalls, costs, contacts when you get there. There are many ways you can ship a helicopter, of course, and owners could discuss this. Formalities needed. Insurance, etc.
3. Safety around helicopters when you fly with infants, little children and dogs or cats.
4. Auxilliary Tanks. Many private owners doing long cross country trips can't access aux tanks easily. Maybe a renting service can be provided by someone.
5. Handling corrupt custom officials - how to handle bribes, pay off police, etc especially in Mexico, parts of South America, Africa, Indonesia or Philippines or in other corrupt countries if you are crossing international boundaries.
6. Listening to talks by Ron Bower or Dick Smith or Ross Perot Jr or Jenny Murray on their epic trips.
7. Private Pilot's perspective of a helicopter, eg comfort, speed, airconditioning, autopilots, range, TV/DVD/Nintendo set-up for children, FBO's at airports that are private pilot friendly, getting emergency mechanic service if needed, cost of operations where flight hours per year are low, etc. In addition, luggage perspective (eg belly cargo pod, space extenders, skid mounted pods, etc).
8. Filing flight plans in various countries, use of HF or VHF radios, voice procedures that are different.
9. Landing techniques for beaches, snow, waterfalls, pressure height considerations, etc
This list is not complete and I invite others to contribute.
Three possible streams are:
1. 2 or 3 world adventurers speeches and Q&A
2. Long International or just cross country flights. Shipping a chopper, getting it ferry flighted, etc.
3. Safety from a private owner's perspective.
Just my thoughts to give to you Autorotate, a different perspective. Of course, commercial pilots are invited along as well so long as they are constructive on our type of flying.
Hope this helps and good luck with your conference.
WB
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Warren - Great feedback and appreciate it. For your info tried to get Ross Perot Jr to come as a guest speaker but if it wasnt for Spring Break obligations with his children he would have been there, 
We are working with many others to give presentations and your feedback is very helpful.
I would like to ask some of our European members to find out what it costs to fly to Brisbane, Australia from wherever you are in Europe and also if you are near Frankfurt, Paris or London, is Qantas the cheapest or if they arent who is. Just gives me some more info so we can get the prices down as much as possible for all to attend.
Thanks.
Ned
We are working with many others to give presentations and your feedback is very helpful.
I would like to ask some of our European members to find out what it costs to fly to Brisbane, Australia from wherever you are in Europe and also if you are near Frankfurt, Paris or London, is Qantas the cheapest or if they arent who is. Just gives me some more info so we can get the prices down as much as possible for all to attend.
Thanks.
Ned
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Heliport - Thanks, appreciate it. Now using your currency converters lets put some package prices together from each region.
Registration Fee - $750 AUD
Accommodation - $1000 AUD
Airfare from Europe - 500 Pounds
What does that come to as a total in pounds and Euros.
How about some of our east and west coast members giving us some feedback on ticket prices from your major cities so we can see what we are working with.
Thanks.
Ned
Registration Fee - $750 AUD
Accommodation - $1000 AUD
Airfare from Europe - 500 Pounds
What does that come to as a total in pounds and Euros.
How about some of our east and west coast members giving us some feedback on ticket prices from your major cities so we can see what we are working with.
Thanks.
Ned
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Dear Members,
We have had 13 votes for NO we wont attend. Is it because of the distance, cost, no interest in it no matter what, or what would the reasoning be.
If it is some of the above we would appreciate feedback so we can address any issues. We are trying to make this a must attend event but need feedback from the industry to make it happen. Thanks again.
Ned
We have had 13 votes for NO we wont attend. Is it because of the distance, cost, no interest in it no matter what, or what would the reasoning be.
If it is some of the above we would appreciate feedback so we can address any issues. We are trying to make this a must attend event but need feedback from the industry to make it happen. Thanks again.
Ned
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Reason for No
Autorotate,
The whole thing seems like it will be a great event, and i think it would be an action packed function, but the reason i posted a No, is that i physically can't afford to take 1 month off, due to my commitments already planned that far ahead.
I wish you luck with it and am jealous of the guys who can make it, i think it will be a brilliant event to attend,, with a lot of high calibre seminars, making it worth the effort.
Sorry, i couldnt be there.
MD
The whole thing seems like it will be a great event, and i think it would be an action packed function, but the reason i posted a No, is that i physically can't afford to take 1 month off, due to my commitments already planned that far ahead.
I wish you luck with it and am jealous of the guys who can make it, i think it will be a brilliant event to attend,, with a lot of high calibre seminars, making it worth the effort.
Sorry, i couldnt be there.
MD
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Great Barrier Reef Helo Conference - List of Events
To All Members:
Here is what we have so far for the conference. Any comments or feedback on the seminars would be welcome.
Ned
MONDAY TOPIC
2.00pm - 5.00pm Bringing Associations Together
7.00pm - 10.30pm Welcome Function
Key Note Speaker - Opening
TUESDAY
Breakfast 0700 - 0800
0800 - 12.00 Dir of Maint Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Risk Management
0800 - 12.00 Helicopter Tourism Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Offshore Operators Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Working in the Wire Environment
Lunch 12.00 - 1.00pm
1.00 pm - 3.30pm NVG In Police & EMS Operations
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Operators & Maint Working as One.
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Insurance - Australia v Rest of World
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Longlining - The Ups and Downs Of It.
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Flight & Duty Times
Afternoon Tea - 3.30 - 3.45
3.45pm - 5.45pm Civil Use of Ex Military Aircraft
3.45pm - 5.45pm Marketing Your Company
3.45pm - 5.45pm Accidents & The Lessons Learnt
3.45pm - 5.45pm Employment - Who Wants Who
3.45pm - 5.45pm Pushing the Envelope - Flight Test
7.30 - 10.30pm Aussie BBQ
WEDNESDAY
Breakfast - 0700 - 0800
0800 - 12.00 SAR/Hoist Users Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Global Fire Fighting Operations
0800 - 12.00 CRM for Single Pilot Operations
0800 - 12.00 Chief Pilot Roundtable
0800 - 12.00
DEPART TO REEF WORLD
Snacks on Boat
(Lunch at Reefworld)
THURSDAY
Breakfast 0700-0800
0800 - 09.30am Bell Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Schweizer Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Lycoming Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Turbomeca Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Robinson Product Briefing
M/Tea 09.30 - 9.45am
9.45 - 11.15am Eurocopter Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Sikorsky Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Pratt & Whitney Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Agusta Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Enstrom Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Bell/Agusta Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Rolls Royce Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
DEPART FOR WHITEHAVEN
(Lunch at Whitehaven)
1800 - Midnight GA Function at HIA
FRIDAY
Breakfast 0700-0800
0800 - 12.00pm Working in the Wire Environment
0800 - 12.00pm Legal Liabilities - Your Rights.
0800 - 12.00pm CRM for the Multi Crew Cockpit
0800 - 12.00pm Private Owners Roundtable
0800 - 12.00pm Flight Training Roundtable.
Lunch 12.00 1.00pm
1.00 - 2.30pm Certification of Russian Aircraft
1.00 - 2.30pm Using the Internet.
1.00 - 2.30pm CASA - New Helo Regulations
1.00 - 2.30pm Human Factors in Night Flying
1.00 - 2.30pm Aircraft Mods - How, Wheres and Why
A/Tea 2.30 - 3.00pm
3.00 - 5.00pm Fatigue Management in Maintenance Ops
3.00 - 5.00pm Night VFR Ops - Lessons Learnt
3.00 - 5.00pm Confined Area Operations
3.00 - 5.00pm
3.00 - 5.00pm EMS Funding - How To Get It.
7.00pm - ?? Gala Dinner - Closing Ceremony
Here is what we have so far for the conference. Any comments or feedback on the seminars would be welcome.
Ned
MONDAY TOPIC
2.00pm - 5.00pm Bringing Associations Together
7.00pm - 10.30pm Welcome Function
Key Note Speaker - Opening
TUESDAY
Breakfast 0700 - 0800
0800 - 12.00 Dir of Maint Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Risk Management
0800 - 12.00 Helicopter Tourism Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Offshore Operators Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Working in the Wire Environment
Lunch 12.00 - 1.00pm
1.00 pm - 3.30pm NVG In Police & EMS Operations
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Operators & Maint Working as One.
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Insurance - Australia v Rest of World
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Longlining - The Ups and Downs Of It.
1.00 pm - 3.30pm Flight & Duty Times
Afternoon Tea - 3.30 - 3.45
3.45pm - 5.45pm Civil Use of Ex Military Aircraft
3.45pm - 5.45pm Marketing Your Company
3.45pm - 5.45pm Accidents & The Lessons Learnt
3.45pm - 5.45pm Employment - Who Wants Who
3.45pm - 5.45pm Pushing the Envelope - Flight Test
7.30 - 10.30pm Aussie BBQ
WEDNESDAY
Breakfast - 0700 - 0800
0800 - 12.00 SAR/Hoist Users Roundtable
0800 - 12.00 Global Fire Fighting Operations
0800 - 12.00 CRM for Single Pilot Operations
0800 - 12.00 Chief Pilot Roundtable
0800 - 12.00
DEPART TO REEF WORLD
Snacks on Boat
(Lunch at Reefworld)
THURSDAY
Breakfast 0700-0800
0800 - 09.30am Bell Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Schweizer Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Lycoming Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Turbomeca Product Briefing
0800 - 09.30am Robinson Product Briefing
M/Tea 09.30 - 9.45am
9.45 - 11.15am Eurocopter Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Sikorsky Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Pratt & Whitney Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Agusta Product Briefing
9.45 - 11.15am Enstrom Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Bell/Agusta Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Rolls Royce Product Briefing
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
11.30 - 1.00pm Supplier Mini Product Briefings
DEPART FOR WHITEHAVEN
(Lunch at Whitehaven)
1800 - Midnight GA Function at HIA
FRIDAY
Breakfast 0700-0800
0800 - 12.00pm Working in the Wire Environment
0800 - 12.00pm Legal Liabilities - Your Rights.
0800 - 12.00pm CRM for the Multi Crew Cockpit
0800 - 12.00pm Private Owners Roundtable
0800 - 12.00pm Flight Training Roundtable.
Lunch 12.00 1.00pm
1.00 - 2.30pm Certification of Russian Aircraft
1.00 - 2.30pm Using the Internet.
1.00 - 2.30pm CASA - New Helo Regulations
1.00 - 2.30pm Human Factors in Night Flying
1.00 - 2.30pm Aircraft Mods - How, Wheres and Why
A/Tea 2.30 - 3.00pm
3.00 - 5.00pm Fatigue Management in Maintenance Ops
3.00 - 5.00pm Night VFR Ops - Lessons Learnt
3.00 - 5.00pm Confined Area Operations
3.00 - 5.00pm
3.00 - 5.00pm EMS Funding - How To Get It.
7.00pm - ?? Gala Dinner - Closing Ceremony