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Does anyone agree witn me that the title 'Professional Pilot's Rumour Network' is a bit of a misnomer? As far as I can maintain this forum is populated by a bunch of starstruck wannabees, sycophantic t***s, and engineers who would be better off polishing their spanners than using up valuable bandwidth.
When was the last good rumour posted by a professional pilot?
Any suggestions for a new name!?
When was the last good rumour posted by a professional pilot?
Any suggestions for a new name!?
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Starstruck wannabees spanner weilding pratts and nutters. My god you have got a chip on your shoulder, I would have thought from the ammount of postings, its quite obvious the formula works. If all we had were rumours posted by old gits us younger, brighter, foreward thinking chaps would be watching tele instead . Perhaps you might be more at ease if an old farts forum was created.
oldgit:
charlie s charlie:
Hey!
Although I agree in principle with "oldgit," I wouldn't go so far as to call for a forum name change. The non-professional aviators on this forum like charlie do provide the occasional amusing distraction. It's bad enough to have them here, but I would not call for their outright banning. I abide them as I do those pesky "airport kids" you meet sometimes who bother me incessantly with their inane questions about flying when I'm merely trying to get some fuel, take a leak and be on my way. "Excuse me, sir? What does that back propeller do?" Oh, please, if I hear that one more time I shall scream! We might not be able to keep them off our internet, but I mean, can't we do something about keeping kids and non-aviators out of small airports?
Does anyone agree witn me that the title 'Professional Pilot's Rumour Network' is a bit of a misnomer?
Those wouldn't be the dulcet tones of PF#1 under a new pseudonym would they?
Although I agree in principle with "oldgit," I wouldn't go so far as to call for a forum name change. The non-professional aviators on this forum like charlie do provide the occasional amusing distraction. It's bad enough to have them here, but I would not call for their outright banning. I abide them as I do those pesky "airport kids" you meet sometimes who bother me incessantly with their inane questions about flying when I'm merely trying to get some fuel, take a leak and be on my way. "Excuse me, sir? What does that back propeller do?" Oh, please, if I hear that one more time I shall scream! We might not be able to keep them off our internet, but I mean, can't we do something about keeping kids and non-aviators out of small airports?
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"Oh, please, if I hear that one more time I shall scream!"
The equivalent in my job is:
"How do you feel when you're defending someone you know 'deep down' must be guilty."
(Like one or two pilots I could mention.
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But in the scheme of things, isn't it a very small price to pay for doing an interesting job? Would you really want a job that was so uninteresting nobody had any questions they wanted to ask?
FL
Non-professional aviator.
(Thanks for not asking for us to be banned.)
BTW, I didn't think you and oldgit were the same person. Your posts are much cleverer than that.
Edited for typos. It was very late!
"Oh, please, if I hear that one more time I shall scream!"
The equivalent in my job is:
"How do you feel when you're defending someone you know 'deep down' must be guilty."
(Like one or two pilots I could mention.
)But in the scheme of things, isn't it a very small price to pay for doing an interesting job? Would you really want a job that was so uninteresting nobody had any questions they wanted to ask?
FL
Non-professional aviator.
(Thanks for not asking for us to be banned.)
BTW, I didn't think you and oldgit were the same person. Your posts are much cleverer than that.
Edited for typos. It was very late!
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Thank you, Tudor. As a matter of fact, as I was writing that post (which as you might imagine went through a couple of tongue-in-cheek versions before I hit "Submit Reply") and as I was considering what to say about the non-pro's, I was actually thinking of you and what you bring to our "table." And very simply I would not want to be part of a forum that excluded anyone- pilot or wannabe, amateur or pro.
BTW, I didn't think you and oldgit were the same person.
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PF#1, mate we need kids at airports, asking questions.
It's arrogant arseholes like you that stop kids that are aspiring to be pilots from having a go at it.
Do you ever get sick of people telling you your a dork?.
Dork!!!!!!.
It's arrogant arseholes like you that stop kids that are aspiring to be pilots from having a go at it.
Do you ever get sick of people telling you your a dork?.
Dork!!!!!!.
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Now Wiz thats a bit harsh.
I think he's right and while we're at it maybe we could ban the little ******s and the rest of the public from our aircraft as well..... "How high are we?" "how fast are we going?"............... JESUSSS "how about I toss you out and you find out for yourself!!"
I think he's right and while we're at it maybe we could ban the little ******s and the rest of the public from our aircraft as well..... "How high are we?" "how fast are we going?"............... JESUSSS "how about I toss you out and you find out for yourself!!"
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Perhaps the name "Professional Pilot's Rumour Network" refers to a rumour about a Professional Pilot? The apostrophe doesn't make it clear Now, Oldgit, surely anyone can spread a rumour about a professional pilot?
[QUOTE]bunch of starstruck wannabees, sycophantic t***s, and engineers who would be better off polishing their spanners[QUOTE]
You have a valid question which you wish to put forward but this sort of personalisation will not do much to endear you to many Ppruners and hardly constitutes reasoned and balanced argument. Professionalism, these days, counts for more than simply earning your wage and most pilots making a living from flying display all the attributes of a professional attitude and... er.. some don't. Simiarly, some students and private pilots have a very professional outlook - so take your pick - what does professional mean?
Seeing as your a fixed wing pilot, why post this on Rotorheads? Surely, Jet Blast would be more appropriate - why don't you see how you get on there?
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Now, Oldgit, surely anyone can spread a rumour about a professional pilot?[QUOTE]bunch of starstruck wannabees, sycophantic t***s, and engineers who would be better off polishing their spanners[QUOTE]
You have a valid question which you wish to put forward but this sort of personalisation will not do much to endear you to many Ppruners and hardly constitutes reasoned and balanced argument. Professionalism, these days, counts for more than simply earning your wage and most pilots making a living from flying display all the attributes of a professional attitude and... er.. some don't. Simiarly, some students and private pilots have a very professional outlook - so take your pick - what does professional mean?
Seeing as your a fixed wing pilot, why post this on Rotorheads? Surely, Jet Blast would be more appropriate - why don't you see how you get on there?
Cheers
Whirlygig
Ah Whirlygig, who got "Roots, shoots and leaves," for Christmas then?
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Crab,
It's actually "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" and, er, yes, I have read it but pedantry is something to which I have always aspired and prepositions at the end of sentences are errors up with which I shall not put
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Whirlygig
It's actually "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" and, er, yes, I have read it but pedantry is something to which I have always aspired and prepositions at the end of sentences are errors up with which I shall not put
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Having inadvertently caused such a outburst of indignation, I shall now take my leave and disappear from this forum. Just a parting question however. Whatever happened to a sense of humour, surely these forums are all about having a bit of fun!!?
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Oldgit,
Shame you are leaving - I thought that the whole point of your post was to produce these reactions: you were supposed to respond with something else equally contentious and we could all have a good ole-fashioned cyber-scrap
I can see plenty of humour in the responses
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Whirlygig
Shame you are leaving - I thought that the whole point of your post was to produce these reactions: you were supposed to respond with something else equally contentious and we could all have a good ole-fashioned cyber-scrap
I can see plenty of humour in the responses
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What does the back propeller do?
It minces up pesky airport kids
who ask me questions,
now #### off!
And then, after I told him how high we were,
you're just not gonna believe what he asked next,
'How ####ing fast are we going' .......JESUSSS!!
Well, if they haven’t got a sense of humour Sweetie,
you'd best let them get on with it. It’s their loss.
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Well I am still here as. I only realised this morning that I had posted on the wrong forum, hello to all you 'rotorheads'. If I have offended you with my comments, tough luck. However notwithstanding every thing else that has been said I still think a good healthy debate on the relevance of 'PPRUNE' as a name has some merits. If I were a little more creative I would come up with an alternative acronym but I really am struggling, must be age or something!
Whirlygig, sorry you are quite right, I was thinking of the less clean version of the Panda joke where it arrives at it's girlfriend's house, dines, fornicates, ejaculates and departs. I must remember not to PPrune with a hangover!
Charlie s charlie - good post!
Charlie s charlie - good post!
Definition of "professional" (as provided by charles s charles):
With two exceptions (3b and 7), all of the above refer to doing something and getting paid for it before being considered a professional. But then the authors of the dictionary decided to throw a bone to those who do something "with great competence" and call them a pro. Thanks a lot! This must give a warm/fuzzy feeling to some amateurs who like to think of themselves in this manner, but it severely dilutes the meaning of the word. Let's just call everybody a professional, shall we? Um...let's not.
Well it's obviously not "a demeanour." The definition above makes no reference to this; it's all about performance, baby. In other words, you may walk and talk like a professional, and you may even aspire greatly to be one, but in the end it's how you fly that counts. (But maybe I'm splitting hairs here. FL, your ruling?)
The fact is, in the context of aviation, one is not a pro until one gets paid to fly, simple as that. Amateurs may fly like a pro and may even think of themselves as such, but sadly they are still considered amateurs.
Is PF#1 really Bill Gates? Hardly! I'm a working helicopter pilot...which we all know is the exact opposite of a Bill Gates. But that'll teach me to use the royal "we." (And anyway, Gates didn't invent the internet. That accomplishment and award went to that great U.S. politician, statesman, enemy of the internal combustion engine and former vice president Al Gore. Didn't it?)
I'm not up on the exact history of this site, but I imagine that PPRuNe probably did begin as its name suggests, but evolved and expanded to the present form, outgrowing its name. I'm okay with that.
And Heliport? Glad you have such a good sense of humour Your characterization of me is spot-on with one minor detail: I have a touch more gray hair than the bloke in the illustration.
Professional adj
1. Of, suitable for, or engaged in as a profession
2. Engaging in an activity as a means of livelihood
3. a. Extremely competent in a job, etc
b (of a piece of work or anything performed) produced with competence or skill
4. Undertaken or performed by people who are paid ~ n
5. A person who belongs to one of the professions
6. A person who engages for his livelihood in some activity also pursued by amateurs
7. A person who engages in an activity with great competence
8. An expert player of a game who gives instruction, esp. to members of a club by whom he is hired
1. Of, suitable for, or engaged in as a profession
2. Engaging in an activity as a means of livelihood
3. a. Extremely competent in a job, etc
b (of a piece of work or anything performed) produced with competence or skill
4. Undertaken or performed by people who are paid ~ n
5. A person who belongs to one of the professions
6. A person who engages for his livelihood in some activity also pursued by amateurs
7. A person who engages in an activity with great competence
8. An expert player of a game who gives instruction, esp. to members of a club by whom he is hired
Is "professional" a state of mind, a demeanour, or merely a title that comes with your first pay cheque?
The fact is, in the context of aviation, one is not a pro until one gets paid to fly, simple as that. Amateurs may fly like a pro and may even think of themselves as such, but sadly they are still considered amateurs.
Is PF#1 really Bill Gates? Hardly! I'm a working helicopter pilot...which we all know is the exact opposite of a Bill Gates. But that'll teach me to use the royal "we." (And anyway, Gates didn't invent the internet. That accomplishment and award went to that great U.S. politician, statesman, enemy of the internal combustion engine and former vice president Al Gore. Didn't it?)
I'm not up on the exact history of this site, but I imagine that PPRuNe probably did begin as its name suggests, but evolved and expanded to the present form, outgrowing its name. I'm okay with that.
And Heliport? Glad you have such a good sense of humour
Your characterization of me is spot-on with one minor detail: I have a touch more gray hair than the bloke in the illustration.
