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Old 14th Jun 2004, 11:00
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Dennis' Donnington Display

Hi, unfortunately I was not able to get to Donnington to see Den's display this weekend. I understood that it was going to use an H500 too ! Do you or any of you friends have any video of the 'Wings & Strings' display ??
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Old 16th Jun 2004, 13:12
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great stuff

great flying, the vid is good but even better live. I attend shoreham every year.
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the blue eagles put on a good show too with the reversing lynx.

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Old 18th Jun 2004, 11:48
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Help me find this video clip!!!

I am trying to find the video of the Student in the H300 who thought he could go fly without an instructor, I have found a couple of links to it through the search function, but all are dead links.

If anyone could help me out, I'd be very grateful!!!


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Old 18th Jun 2004, 12:12
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I found it for ya! Its at http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm , along with a goldmine of accidents! Some that make you go "Ooh, I'm glad that wasn't me", and some a little more unfortunate.

Also, check out 405: The Movie while you're at it. Its hilarious!

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Old 19th Jun 2004, 23:16
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The Donnington Display
The Lynxes Lynx tandem display
Dennis in the Enstrom Dennis in the Enstrom
Rough Videos and at a great distance
JJ
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Jerry,

The videos may be rough but there's nowt wrong with the flying. Both cracking displays, just wish I'd been there to see 'em live.

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Old 21st Jun 2004, 15:56
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Loadlifting accidents

I remember seeing a video of a jetranger with a bambi bucket trying to lift water from a small private swimming pool and catching the tailrotor off the fence behind with devastating results.Does anyone have a copy or anything simililar?
I'm trying to compile some for a safety course.

Thanks
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Old 27th Jun 2004, 17:47
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Todays Video from Rougham
Dennis kenyon at Rougham
Hope you like it

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Old 8th Jul 2004, 04:31
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Angel Chopper refueling video misshap...

..looks like he got a little impatient?

Main Rotor contact with refueling tube - inflight (right click "save as" )

lucky.
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 11:11
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ooyah f*cker springs to mind.

he must have dumped the collective pretty fiercely to contact the drobe
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 11:21
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watch the disk...............you can actually see it unload and then load up as he pushes the cyclic forward. looks bloody scary and expensive.
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Thumbs up

It looks like he was chasing the drone chute as it went down then realized... "oh $hit, pull up, pull up." That is one well-built helicopter! Notice that the airspeed didn't slow much and he just kept on truck'in... lucky.
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 12:45
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Talking

yeah, but check out the outta phase blade sailing about.
bet it shook like a bugga.
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That is a USMC CH-53E, but I have no details on it. It is one tough machine, and can carry 55 fully loaded troops over 600NM at 150 knots.
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I have also no further information about this accident, but at another website where this video is hosted I found this:

"This incident damaged 4 of the 7 main rotor blades and completely destroyed a refuel probe causing about $1,002,600.00 in damage to the helicopter. (Each main rotor blade costs 237,590.00 to replace from scrap, and the probe costs about $52,240.00)"
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 15:26
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Funny to watch, def. dont wanna try that at home kids. Easy to say sat here in my chair!

Any one know what speed they do that at. Pilot led with cyclic as opposed to collective, so i'm guessing quite quick for the chopper wrt possible torque limits, and quite slow for the tanky!




Where there's blame, there's a claim!!!!


Cutting your refuellin probe off to spite your chopper!!
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 17:24
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OUCH!



The Herc can slow it up to about 110 Kts with all its drag deployed. They used to have to when supporting the origonal H-3 "Jolly Greens". Actually, they often had to arrange for a shallow dive while refueling because the H-3 had not the power to maintain 110 straight and level under many conditions. The 53 can get gas at much faster speeds. Don't remember the Vne for the basket but believe it was about 150 Kts.

This is the worst case of chasing the basket with cyclic that I have ever seen. A major safety NO-NO in refueling. The AC or IP should be sacked! It's a hard manuver to get right in turbulent conditions. The basket can swing wildly, but you must have the discipline to NOT chase with cyclic.

Finally, I am amazed the blade did not disintigrate and kill the whole crew. Those refueling probes are built tough and rigid. Thank goodness Sikorsky blades are tougher. It must have seemed like an eternity before they could get it on the ground from that altitude. Wonder if they could even see the gages?

They couldn't even go straight to the bar to get drunk with todays' accident investigation procedures.

Please let me have that kind of luck when I screw up!

DT
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Old 8th Jul 2004, 20:32
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Is that fuel spraying from the probe just after the blades have made contact ?

I wonder if this type of incident was considered during the design phases, and if any thought was given to possibly siting the probe a little lower ?

I'm sure someone can answer for me...!
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paracab,
The envelope for blade motion is part of the design process for all helos, with or without fuel probes. Even weapons arcs have to be worked out relative to possible blade motions during maneuvers.

The probes are mounted low and retracted for normal operations, and extended only during refuel, when the maneuver envelope is restricted (duh!) but still sizable.

It is a devilish set of choices to try to design for most contingencies, but it is hard to make a helo that can't be harmed by the pilot.

The foolproof helo is a bit farther off than that, because it is said that fools are actually quite ingenious.
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Old 10th Jul 2004, 21:52
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NL,

Thanks for that, I guessed as much, but watching that clip made me wonder !
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