How about the author of the letter? His name was not removed either. Ask him how many phone calls he has been getting! Not good!!!!

Where are the moderators?

That very same letter is posted on every other aviation forum, and I have received it in my personal email twice already, it's in wide circulation, not just on PPrune.

Was Bryant B. at ASA back in the early nineties?

ExRAF, Junk !

Better call half the Newspapers in the US and tell them your complaints. Names are out there everywhere. 4 of them are longtime friends of mine.

I've been following this thread and don't have a dog in this fight...But in this day, with emails and internet, if anything is sent out I presume it would become public very quickly.

ExRAF,
All the names were in several Florida papers....................I also recieved atleast 10 e-mails with them. THANK GOD I did read the paper and found out 4 of the 8 are friends of mine. Now, back under your rock please....

I can imagine because that interoffice memo was posted here, and because the author of that memo is getting deluged by calls, that will be the last written update they give to their employees. Nice going Skippy.

WindSuck,

I guess you cant read ! IT'S all over the internet !!!! Do you need to be hand fed ??

My, my, aren't we upset about something? Hmm?

It looks like it started here, everywhere I've seen it they state they got from here. If you work for Kalitta, you better wish they don't check on who leaked it first to the web forums. Yourrrr in trouble now! :)

Crew update
 

Can any one post whats really important here and provide any information on how the crew is doing. All I have heard is that there was a lot of spine and head trauma. Does anyone know where we might be able to send the families our best wishes?

Out here in the dark.:ugh:

Everyone is back in the states, either home or in a hospital close to home. If the crew/famlies give the ok, we'll get something posted so as to contact them. I am sure the guys would appreciate some encouraging words.

Thanks for the information.

rob rilley:

Adult 101: Here is the deal. Don’t name names. Give a synopsis, even link to the source article. What most of us are looking for is information, not personal suffering. There is a fine line, but a pretty clear one.

Aviation Safety
 

I just want to digress and comment.

Despite all our differences, I think it's important to realize that all posters here are an important component of Aviation Safety. Problems don't get fixed when doing "business as usual." Accidents are multi-faceted and complex and deserve to be examined from all angles even if certain lines of questioning, postings and assumptions turn out to be dead ends. Why hopefully, even the press can read and learn something here and realize that things are not as simple as they appear on the surface and that in reality, incredible, brave and professional individuals report for duty under difficult circumstances and in most cases ensure perfect safety (especially as when you consider the deaths per seat mile of all alternative modes of transport) and should be all commended as heros to the profession.

I myself, am proud to have been a small part of the development of today's testament to aviation safety, and marvel at the resourcefulness of todays professionals and companies who operate in much more adverse conditions than we faced in my day. Godspeed Connie Kalitta, Guppy, ExRAFboy, robriley, walepfe and others and the crews of the ill fated accidents.

It's been a real pleasure to converse with you Gentlemen, and I must say, that I have learned a great deal from this thread. My hat is off to the moderators for permitting such a controversial and informative thread.

pacific plyer - over and out

Very well said - and I second the motion!

Yes, it is all over the internet. Thanks to folks like you. Highly unprofessional. Nice going.

Aviation Safety
 

It is cool to be able to BS back and forth on these websites, because nobody knows who you are and you have a fancy screen name and all. It's cool to speculate and get to be an expert on a certain subject, but the problem, like with this accident, is when sensitive information, pictures, etc. gets leaked. It pisses the NTSB off and they don't have to let other intrested parties be a "party" to the investigation. The NTSB are very qualified and have the expertise and resources to do an investigation and then they publish their findings so everyone can learn from it. That is the whole mechanics behind the NTSB. It is unfortunate that we have some among our own ranks that have jeopardized are ability to be a "party" to another investigation. God willing, it won't be an issue. But, maybe some others should take note, if you find yourself in a similar situation. I hope not!

WhalePFE

Five of the eight thanked you for posting the union letter on a public board? I don't believe that...and even the author of that letter has been very unhappy with it's posting...but you're justifying your stupidity and unprofessional behavior by stating that others have thanked you for doing the wrong thing?

You must be proud.

Interesting. Now it's five a few days ago it was four as your longtime friends. Soon enough they'll all be your drinking buddies. And it still won't justify what you did. Even if they all kiss your feet and say thanks. By the by...none of them authored that letter, did they?