dear doors to automatic

you have been on this forum long enough to know you will get shot down if you offer anything different than the tea and crumpets served as usual.

paraphrase from "stick and rudder": someday you will fly the plane right above the runway, pull a handle marked speed brake and just settle to the ground, all done flying.

allow me lattitude in the paraphrase, but you can look it up for yourself and it was written before we were born.

Sure you can use spoilers to get "down" if you are floating, just like a turbo prop can pull reverse or beta, but floating is usually caused by lousy speak control and easy to avoid: Stay on speed during short final..:cool:

Doors to Automatic, sorry, but that's ridiculous. Pulling the spoilers out in flight (I find it very hard t believe you could do that in a 737 anyway, unless you are referring to the speedbrakes...) is not the way to make yourself land on the spot.

Go around and do the approach again, properly!

doors to automatic. I find it hard to believe that people don't understand what you are getting at. you are offering a new way of controlling the aircraft in the final stages of approach/touchdown.

I understand it perfectly and someday, someone aviation designers will use your advice. As I mentioned, the idea is well over 70 years old.

Some people have trouble understanding the use of speedbrakes as a term instead of spoilers. The idea is the same, deflection angles and other items are different, but the idea is there.


For the purpose of this discussion, let us stipulate to the idea that speed brakes and spoilers can be used interchangeably. OF COURSE some will point out that some spoilers are used for roll control, some are used only as ground spoilers. BUT LET US GET OVER IT>

Spoilers on touchdown, speed brakes in flight...

tower dog

ok, you want to get precise, then you are missing roll spoilers used in flight.

PLEASE, for the purpose of this discussion, let us use the terms interchangeably

It won't actually worry me coz if I pull out the spoilers/speedbrakes/big metal panels on the wings with landing flap bitching betty screeches "Speedbrakes!". :cool:

bloggs

there are other planes out there besides your type. bittchin betty-ha

Aware of that, SHFG. Anybody who uses the wing-speedbrakes in a jet to get the thing on the ground is an idiot.

bloggs


but someday, say again SOMEDAY, a plane may be designed, and built that allows the use of speedbrakes to PLOP her right on.

WE are discussing the future, not the today.