Is this a stable approach?
 

Maybe they are in a war zone attempting to avoid flak, or test flying.

I don't think they are using the normally blocked out flaps 45 position of the ATR.

Yep all looked good till about 50 feet where he bottled it :E

Thumbs up! :}

No - an utter shambles.

All that can be said is that they walked away from it. Cowboys (or frustrated fighter pilots sic the 'daga-daga-daga') - accidents waiting to happen.

Please let the world know who and where so the so-called airline can be avoided.

You can fly a turboprop like that with little problem. The military fly like this to avoid small arms fire (tactical approach) Didn't look like a hard landing either, just the camera opo losing balance.
If you tried flying a jet like that you would be off the far end of the runway though, and if you fly for a company that has on board monitoring, you'd get fired.

Management Pilots
 

Looks like a typical Management Pilot approach on his one trip a month line flight.

Nice video. Teaches us what not to do in an approach. Did they know the parameters for a stabilized approach ? And if things are not going as they should be, a go around is always there to execute. Poor flying skills and very poor decision making demonstrated.

And they are that retarded they let someone record the whole thing....Dumb and Dumber really at work in this video.

Hang on, everyone is being so self righteous but nobody actually knows the purpose of the flight. :=

"Is this a stable approach"?

Not even a decent Khe Sahn approach !

Looked like some sort of test flight to me.

Except a 146. 1100' at 1 mile onto a short runway was easy.

I think, they tried to perform I would say a tactical approach, but you have to land at the threshold:

I have flown and observed more critical approaches, but they were all in a war zone remaining clear of threatened or actual enemy fire. Since this seems a civil flight, there is no obvious reason for this type of approach. Without a valid reason, it becomes totally unacceptable.

Read up my little Micosoft pilots and Cildren of the Magenta Line, don't chastise the crew until you are aware of the facts. Could have been a training flight for close in war zone tactical airport operations.

I constantly despair at the lack of perception and judgement shown by so many of the posters here at PPRune... will someone please please tell me that the piloting population in general has a far greater grasp of space and time than the average commentator we find here? please, or I will start to really get worried about the abilities of those up the sharp end when faced with any situation outside their narrow comprehension.

This video, for all its faults, demonstrates an unorthodox but completely controlled descent and tolerable landing. The 'hard' landing looks like a put up job by the camera person, the aircraft had flared and was stable at around about the height you'd expect it to be bleeding off speed, and if the actual touchdown was a bit harder than a greaser there's no way from the attitude and height of the aircraft that it could have been damaging.

Have another look doubters, concentrate not on the steep and 'scary' descent, just the 1-2 seconds before the wheels contacted the runway, where the view is exactly as you'd expect in any normal landing.

Well, except for the 50% of the runway now BEHIND them.....

Could have been but they also seemed to be wearing bog standard airline uniforms. Given there is a bloke standing behind the jumpseat with the cockpit door open I would guess it is a ferry flight without pax and the pilots are "having a bit of fun". Still not very bright to have "Pull Up" and "sink Rate" warnings blaring because if it had gone wrong the CVR would not have told a pretty story.

Have to agree with you.....it did not seem to be a hard landing, just a cameraman's balance.

Not knowing the purpose of the flight, the greater than normal 3 degree approach path may have been training for the copilot, who was PF, it seems, so.....

....back off folks. As far as continuing on when the EGPWS is talking to you, yes, they should have silenced it in advance(!)

;)

Totally unstable, totally out of order (i'm guessing that it's not their equipment that they are flying either?). Positioning flight or not, ignoring GPWS commands and landing half way down the runway displays gross unprofessionalism and is deserved of a good drop kick in the gentlemans log cabin for the two geniuses up front. Obviously no big brother in the flight deck, but to film yourself doing it and then post it on youtube, WTF?

The conversation is in Spanish and by the accent it seems to be the Andes region, this looks like a training flight for the F/O, I couldn't make the call sign when the captain got on the radio after the landing though. Airlines flying in those parts operate these turboprops into airports that would make the average pilot uncomfortable for sure, thus they regularly train to the edge of what the A/C is capable to do and you need a sign off into these airports (I use the term airports loosely) some of these remote places are only accessible efficiently by air or by several hours of very dangerous driving conditions, pilots flying Into these places train accordingly. You might agree or disagree, but the conversation on this and many other pilot sites is always about how the stick and rudder skills are being lost, well, some of these airports need training in nothing but stick and rudder skills to be able to operate in and out off. Something to think about before you place these folks into the irresponsible dare devils column.

Shaun, maybe they've got their heads out of the "vectors to 3 degree ILS magenta" box most people live in these days?!

good Lord,

I landed a Dornier 28 (yes 28) which with full flaps has an incredible deck angle, from 1000 feet over the threshold. The tower said "do you want to go round?"
- No sir, I am fine.

After landing, rolling for about 20 feet and turning off, the tower said "What kind of airplane IS that?"

Great fun.......

wow, pprune seems to always branch into three camps these days :

1/ "children of the magenta".The new buzzwords. Bit like 'trending'.
2/ we're real men, we don't need any of your electronics/magenta etc
3/ spotters/wannabes talking poo.

Regardless of if you think, real men fly these steep apporaches, training or not, having a laugh or not, surely - as pointed out- you try and land near the closest runway end....

Well, MRJT purists are free to turn their heads in disgust: ATR can safely negotiate approach at -11° flightpath angle. However, there is very strict way to do it, which results in safe and predictable arrival. Main points being: daylight VMC with runway and all of the surroundings being visible all the time from starting of the dive and aiming short of the runway to intercept normal glidepath at 200ft latest.

These guys messed it up royally. Landed long after diving all the way to runway.

Oh, and landing with a guy standing in the forward cargo compartment is criminally negligent, posting proof of it on YouTube is demented, to say the least.

If you have to make an 'approach' like that in an airliner to get into a strip, it should be banned !

It was beyond 'Gash' IMO.

(Ex bush & airline pilot)

If you go to the link of this video on youtube, you'll see in the description that there was a problem with the pitch trim :)

No- that was easy.
 

No that does not appear to be a stable approach for all the reasons already mentioned.

Perhaps there is some reason for this display of "airmanship". I do not have all the information, but as it first appears it does not reflect well on this crew.

Sometimes "good people" and otherwise good pilots make poor decisions. One example might be the (USA) RJ accident when the crew, without anybody else on board, put the jet "through its paces" and flamed out both engines. They were killed when they impacted the earth short of an airfield they were trying to make when they were unable to restore thrust. From that accident came an industry information campaign on the "core lock" event of a turbojet engine under certain unfavorable conditions.

Was there some malfunction they were compensating for (as the poster above indicates). Was it sanctioned training, or some sort of flight test? Perhaps they did a stellar job then, and my concerns unfounded. Without more information the approach looks unstable to me.

FAP was really close to the Runway don't you think? :}