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acb4u 12th Sep 2002 00:57

Youngest 747 captain ?
 
....in Europe?

brakedwell 12th Sep 2002 06:14

John Rigatone, sorry, Traviata of QANTAS?

NigelOnDraft 12th Sep 2002 07:57

Don't know...

You should get some interesting replies if you ask about the A310 though...

NoD

scroggs 12th Sep 2002 10:49

Virgin has certainly had a couple of 747 captains in their late 20s, although I think all are over 30 now.

sharpshot 12th Sep 2002 11:13

When SIA took delivery of their first two 747-200's they had a local Capt. who was 28.

lurkio 12th Sep 2002 11:25

I believe Virgin had one who was 27 when he got his command.

thx1138 12th Sep 2002 21:45

I know, not Europe but I know for a fact that UPS had a 26 year old 747 captain. Read an article about it. He had started in a quick expanding company and ended up as a young captain on the DC-8. When UPS bought them out, he brought over lots of seniority somehow and made a "sideways" move to the Seven Four. Probably still on it. Must have a good schedule at a young age.

bigbeerbelly 14th Sep 2002 15:29

I think thx1138, is on the right track. I have a friend who is a 747 CA at UPS who told me that the number one guy on the seniority list got a waiver from the FAA to fly the 747 because he had not yet turned 23. He exceeded all other requirements for the ATPL though. He has been there since day one.

IMMELMAN 18th Sep 2002 23:41

When I flew in Germany - Werner Brautigam was a 47 Capt - he was about 28 - in 1970/71 - tragically, he was killed whilst positioning back from Cologne to Frankfurt in a taxi - the driver fell asleep!!! What price FTL's? ( This was Deutsche Lufthansa )

lightoutandarmed 9th Feb 2004 14:31

youngest 747 captain
 
hi to everyone...

just wondering how old or how young the youngest 747 captain is in the world today. i heard that in KLM they have a 28 year old -400 skipper.

any comments?

thanks

cold canuck 9th Feb 2004 16:40

28years old -200 Capt (as far as I know)

FLEXJET 9th Feb 2004 18:23

Years ago, there was a 25 year old Captain flying freighter 747s for an US airline. He was a DC8 Captain at 23...

akerosid 9th Feb 2004 19:24

I remember reading that one of Tony Ryan's sons qualified as a 747 captain, flying wet leased acft for Air Lanka, when it operated the type a few years back.

2FLYEU 9th Feb 2004 20:04

.........A 23 years old 737-200/300 capt on the Airline I was flying for.
He Started at 18 as a F/o.....back in 1988
I have to say pilots flying with him said he was a damn good pilot.
Crm wise and handling wise.:ok:
I've flown with him when he was 29.Very good guy!

:p

BoarderDude 10th Feb 2004 00:01

We have a guy that was 26 when promoted 2 years ago on the 737-800... Had some 25 yr olds as well, but since requirements changed, that isn't going to happen anymore!

Anyway, I guess that is not that special compared to these other stories...

Rocco in Budapest 10th Feb 2004 02:33

Wasn´t the skipper on the CAL -200 Liege overrun last summer 27?

747FOCAL 10th Feb 2004 03:53

My Uncle made 747 Captain at 24 back some years ago and now flies for Northwest. :p

akerosid 10th Feb 2004 04:40

It probably follows from this thread that there are pilots who, having made 747 captain quite young, have been flying the type for many years.

Any idea who holds the hours record for 747 flying (including as FO)? Is there any record of this.

I know VS has a few youngish 747 captains, but since it's a relatively young airline, some of these are still quite young, but there must be some pilots who gained their 4th stripe on 747s back in the '80s and are still flying the type?

(Incidentally, to do the old 747 records to death, any idea what aircraft currently holds the high time record? I know TWA had more than a few -100s with over the 100k, but since most Classics have now retired, I was just curious as to who might have the record. Some of KLM's -200/SUDs must have had close to the 100k mark.)

747FOCAL 10th Feb 2004 04:57

cycles hours
SOUTHERN AIR 747- 200B 20639 116643

ALL NIPPON AIRWAYS 747SR 37447 44759


:}

Rocco in Budapest 10th Feb 2004 06:12

Wasn´t the skipper on the CAL -200 Liege overrun last summer 27?

bizflyer 10th Feb 2004 06:44

I had a BA flight to jfk (744) a few months back and was amazed when i saw the f/o, can't have been more than 25/26 or at least he was very fresh faced. Sorry not terribly factual but I'd be interested to know the age of the youngest BA f/o, I'd guess the guy I saw was him.

catch 22 10th Feb 2004 07:45

youth
 
Don't know if it was a record but I made 747-200 captain in 1982 at age 31. At that time it was the "top of the line" aircraft.

apilot2014 10th Feb 2004 08:03

Nope. I checked out in 1984 at 29. About 5 years later another of our pilots checked out at, I believe, 25 years old.

Hotel Mode 10th Feb 2004 23:56

AFAIK Ba's youngest FO somewhere around 21/22, youngest 744 FO about 24.

expedite_climb 11th Feb 2004 20:16

Not unusual really given they start as cadets at 19, and the course is just over a year.

DOnt work for BA, but I started on the 757 at 22, (but looking 12!), although the youngest on my course the others werent a lot older.

VFE 12th Feb 2004 02:56

Wonder how old the youngest USAF B52 skipper was on the recent war on Iraq? My guess is 23.

catch 22 12th Feb 2004 13:45

Apilot 2014

To make a proper comparision one must consider the year and age. In the early 70's very few 747 captains were under 50. As more aircraft came online the ages dropped. That you were 29 in 1984 has to be taken only in that year, as someone today may be only 24. Furthermore I think there is a difference between a major international passenger company and a freighter. Which side did you come from?

AIRWAY 13th Feb 2004 20:43

In Portugal the youngest FO is a very nice girl ( 20 years old ) flying B737 for a Portuguese Airline, mind you her father is the OPS director of that Airline. :rolleyes:

oligoe 13th Feb 2004 22:02

I saw as well once in a magazine a L-188 electra captain for atlantic cargo who was 22 years old. I then realized i was really late !

ferrydude 13th Feb 2004 22:44

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the infamous Barry Seal (TWA)

expedite_climb 14th Feb 2004 00:33

go on then ferrydude...

maharaja 14th Feb 2004 21:45

you guys will be surprised to learn that in India commercial jets are flown by CPL holders with the minimum hours, which they have logged on the Pushpak aircraft and on Cessna 152's, which are the aircrafts flown in the flying clubs. As a result, with the induction of these people into all the commercial airlines in India, there are a whole bunch of young commanders, some of which have got their command on the 737 at the age of 22. so, age as far as Im, concerned is a state of mind for command. Its the experiece that counts and the ones on type are welcomed, especially when its from the right seat to the left.

Jerry O Springer 15th Feb 2004 11:55

Y'know guys, I run a recruitment agency and if you sign up for my enhanced conditions oy'll take em all ages, cradle to grave B'Jesus joseph & Mary!

West Coast 15th Feb 2004 12:29

I would put the youngest BUFF aircraft commander at 25/26 plus.
Thats doing some optimistic probables. If I had to bet money, I would say the youngest would be 28 or older.

bigbeerbelly 22nd Jul 2005 23:40

A while back I was told the number 1 seniority pilot at UPS was the youngest B747 captain ever. He is the only person given an age waiver to hold an ATP under the age of 23.

Not first hand, but interesting story when I heard it.

BBB

ATPMBA 23rd Jul 2005 00:26

Worked for an air taxi firm years ago. To be Captain on a Lear Jet 24/24/25 you needed to be age 30 or older and have at least 5,000 hours.

Young_Turk 23rd Jul 2005 03:57

its a state of mind..true that
 
i am being upgraded to P1 on the 737 in my airline in india. ill be in the thick of things (p1 sim training) while i celebrate my 23rd bday (in 20 days)....
But i totally agree that its a state of mind. After flying the Bee for over 3 years, its all about thinking mature and systematic in the deck.

And whoever makes the cut, makes the cut...... nomatter wat age/sex/culture....... as long as the regulations allow.

ElNino 23rd Jul 2005 16:16

Most impressive of all were the 19 y.o. Lancaster/Fortress commanders all those years ago. And the 18 y.o. fighter pilots with 20 hours on type before battle. The mind boggles.

earnest 23rd Jul 2005 20:07

Guy Gibson earned his DSO at age 21 on Bomber Command’s first raid of the war. He was a Wing Commander at 23, received the VC after the Dambuster raids at age 24 and was killed in action aged 26.

None of which, had he lived, would have qualified him to be a captain on Learjets at ATPMBA’s firm.

F900EX 18th Dec 2006 04:30

Youngest 747 captain ?
 
My friend here in Boulder, Colorado was flying Regional Jets for 2.5 years. He had 750 hrs PIC on the RJ. He left to fly 747-200 series right seat. He made captain 7 months later after only 250 hours in the right seat of the 74 ! He is still only 28 years old...

Is this a record ?


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