Worst excuse for a bad landing?
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Worst excuse for a bad landing?
On a KLM LHR to AMS flight last Friday evening, the pilot managed the heaviest landing I've experienced in around 400 flights in cattle class. While taxiing to the gate, he explained to the passengers that it had been caused by, 'the hardness of the asphalt on the new runway'.
I doubt it was wind shear, so was it just a new co-pilot cock-up?
I doubt it was wind shear, so was it just a new co-pilot cock-up?
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new co-pilot cock-up?
Why does the world seem to think they have the right to comment and pass judgement on pilots' landings. All office workers will have made cock ups in their time and they dont have the public judge them.....
Strafer - I see you have a PPL. Perhaps you should know better. How would feel if your pax critiscised your slightly less than perfect touch down ?
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expedite_climb keep your Alans on!
My point wasn't that I don't make bad landings myself - in fact I'm excellent at bad landings - it was that if I tried to tell my passengers it was because the new runway was too hard, they'd laugh at me.
My point wasn't that I don't make bad landings myself - in fact I'm excellent at bad landings - it was that if I tried to tell my passengers it was because the new runway was too hard, they'd laugh at me.
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Sorry - came across a little harsh, and wasnt really directed at you entirely strafer. I'm just get irritated the way people think they can judge us.
As for 'hard asphalt', cripes its scarey that the guy thought that was a reasonable excuse.
As for 'hard asphalt', cripes its scarey that the guy thought that was a reasonable excuse.
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Lame excuse
I was jumpseating on a 727-100 when a senior captain pounded it in.
He tried to explain to me that the main gear sit so far behind the CG that when you rotate the nose the main gear slams down.
True comment I suppose, but trying to make an excuse seems kinda tacky.
Besides that, as long as you're on centerline, on speed and in the touchdown zone, who cares?
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He tried to explain to me that the main gear sit so far behind the CG that when you rotate the nose the main gear slams down.
True comment I suppose, but trying to make an excuse seems kinda tacky.
Besides that, as long as you're on centerline, on speed and in the touchdown zone, who cares?
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expedite_ , My goodness, get a life. If you cant take criticism over a simple landing, then get out the kitchen, your girls blouse might catch alight. Pilots are usually made of sterner stuff, take it on the chin, i promise you wont be psycologicaly scared for life. In fact it could improve it. LEARN. If you have an equal amount of landings to take off's then your doing ok.
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I've had a fair share of clangers at AMS, maybe the rumway is a bit too hard!
Worst I ever experienced (in the back) was a KLMuk Fokker 100 at AMS - given that particular aircraft's penchant for collapsing gear, I was a little worried!
Worst I ever experienced (in the back) was a KLMuk Fokker 100 at AMS - given that particular aircraft's penchant for collapsing gear, I was a little worried!
Wingview just accounted for the majority of percieved hard landings- they're intended. Short, wet, crosswinds, traffic in trail, etc.
You pay to get there safe. Sometimes that requires us to plant it. Sometimes thumpers just happen also.
Any landing where you can use the plane again is a good landing.
You pay to get there safe. Sometimes that requires us to plant it. Sometimes thumpers just happen also.
Any landing where you can use the plane again is a good landing.
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I once had a passenger ask if I had my eyes closed when I thumped the metro on the ground one dark night, I replied, "Nope that's too scary" a couple of the pax laughed.
But when flying a Metro every landing is generally a thumber. Good ol metros....
But when flying a Metro every landing is generally a thumber. Good ol metros....
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Never seen a bad landing on an airliner, I fly very often as a pax BTW. I've seen very firm landings but never one where any of the other pax have complained. This only re-inforces my faith in airline pilots 
As for my own landings, I grease it on every time 
(not)
As for my own landings, I grease it on every time (not)