How to log my airline flight hours...
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: sunny country
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
How to log my airline flight hours...
Dear Captains & F/Os, I have some questions about logbook.
For example, during a very long day flying a 737 I did 6 full legs. Well, do authorities accept if I use just a line on my logbook describing FROM as the first departure airport and TO the last landing field and using the REMARKS space to describe all stopover airports or I have to write all segments one by one?
Second, during a long haul flight, if there is a double crew - 2 Captains and 2 F/Os - can both captains log all flight hours as PIC?
Ok, elementary questions, but I'm really confused…I've already heard some different opinions. Does anybody know what FAA/JAA say about this matter?
Thanks.
For example, during a very long day flying a 737 I did 6 full legs. Well, do authorities accept if I use just a line on my logbook describing FROM as the first departure airport and TO the last landing field and using the REMARKS space to describe all stopover airports or I have to write all segments one by one?
Second, during a long haul flight, if there is a double crew - 2 Captains and 2 F/Os - can both captains log all flight hours as PIC?
Ok, elementary questions, but I'm really confused…I've already heard some different opinions. Does anybody know what FAA/JAA say about this matter?
Thanks.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Have a read of GID 44
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ultima Thule
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I could't find infos regarding this:
Can two student pilots log hrs if only one is training. f.ex. if one has to fly solo xc. Can another student go with him and log P2 ?
Or is it only accountable if the craft require 2 pilots ?
Proxus
Can two student pilots log hrs if only one is training. f.ex. if one has to fly solo xc. Can another student go with him and log P2 ?
Or is it only accountable if the craft require 2 pilots ?
Proxus
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Dublin
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Bokomoko
see the FODCOM issued by the CAA last year regarding logging of flight time by 'heavy' crew
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FOD200224.pdf
Flaps
see the FODCOM issued by the CAA last year regarding logging of flight time by 'heavy' crew
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FOD200224.pdf
Flaps
Why do it if it's not fun?
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 4,779
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Proxus,
The FARs are different to the JARs in this respect. Under FARs, two pilots can both log time on a single-pilot aircraft under certain circumstances, e.g. if one is safety pilot. Can't remember the exact rules. But under JAR, no - the only way two pilots can both log time on a single-pilot aircraft under JARs is if one is an instructor/examiner.
GID44, as linked to above, is an excellent reference for the UK (JAR) rules. The only thing which it fails to cover, and which is discussed repeatedly in Private Flying, is how to log non-instructional time with an instructor (e.g. if you go out of whatever your club's currency rules are, or just fancy an hour to boost your confidence, etc.)
FFF
--------------
Edit, because, having re-read your post, Proxus, it sounds like the P1 in your example is a student pilot? In this case, it is illegal for him to carry a passenger at all, let alone for the passenger to log the time.
The FARs are different to the JARs in this respect. Under FARs, two pilots can both log time on a single-pilot aircraft under certain circumstances, e.g. if one is safety pilot. Can't remember the exact rules. But under JAR, no - the only way two pilots can both log time on a single-pilot aircraft under JARs is if one is an instructor/examiner.
GID44, as linked to above, is an excellent reference for the UK (JAR) rules. The only thing which it fails to cover, and which is discussed repeatedly in Private Flying, is how to log non-instructional time with an instructor (e.g. if you go out of whatever your club's currency rules are, or just fancy an hour to boost your confidence, etc.)
FFF
--------------
Edit, because, having re-read your post, Proxus, it sounds like the P1 in your example is a student pilot? In this case, it is illegal for him to carry a passenger at all, let alone for the passenger to log the time.
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ultima Thule
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Thanks !
I was just wondering if it would be possible.
I was considering a scenario where a student pilot had with him another pilot who had atleast ppl licence
Thanks again for clearing it up
proxus
I was considering a scenario where a student pilot had with him another pilot who had atleast ppl licence
Thanks again for clearing it up
proxus