Can you still use the CAA (CAP 407) Logbook?

[Mister Geezer]

I have been trying to use a JAR-FCL Pooleys logbook but it is so badly designed that I can't be bothered with it anymore! Can I legally still buy the CAA (CAP 407) log book and use it even if it is not in JAA format. Is there a transition period that we are in or has a cut off date passed for using non JAR-FCL logbooks.

It is just more red tape for us to drown in!!!

Cheers

[expedite_climb]

As far as I'm aware there is no requirement for logbook design. I know many people who have so many hours they just tot them up in their diary, or keep the ops returns in a folder.

[Mark 1]

ANO article 28 gives the chapter & verse on this, and is, I believe, now in line with JAR-FCL.
As far as I can see, any of the old logbooks are pretty well OK or are easily annotated to meet the requirements.

FYI:
Personal flying log book
28 - (1) Every member of the flight crew of an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom and every person who engages in flying for the purpose of qualifying for the grant or renewal of a licence under this Order shall keep a personal flying log book in which the following particulars shall be recorded:



(a) the name and address of the holder of the log book;

(b) particulars of the holder's licence (if any) to act as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft; and

(c) the name and address of his employer (if any).


(2) Particulars of each flight during which the holder of the log book acted either as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft or for the purpose of qualifying for the grant or renewal of a licence under this Order, as the case may be, shall be recorded in the log book at the end of each flight or as soon thereafter as is reasonably practicable, including:



(a) the date, the places at which the holder embarked on and disembarked from the aircraft and the time spent during the course of a flight when he was acting in either capacity;

(b) the type and registration marks of the aircraft;

(c) the capacity in which the holder acted in flight;

(d) particulars of any special conditions under which the flight was conducted, including night flying and instrument flying; and

(e) particulars of any test or examination undertaken whilst in flight.


(3) For the purposes of this article, a helicopter shall be deemed to be in flight from the moment the helicopter first moves under its own power for the purpose of taking off until the rotors are next stopped.

(4) Particulars of any test or examination undertaken whilst in a flight simulator shall be recorded in the log book, including:



(a) the date of the test or examination;

(b) the type of simulator;

(c) the capacity in which the holder acted; and

(d) the nature of the test or examination.

[Mister Geezer]

Thanks for your help!

[rightbank]

I enquired at my local pilot shop recently and was told that Pooleys have started printing the old style logbooks again, presumably because of complaints about the new ones.