Wierd - landing lights flashing on and off in flight
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Wierd - landing lights flashing on and off in flight
Driving home last night minding my own business, time around 1905 so it was dark, there was a plane on finals about 6 miles out from EGSS runway 023 heading towards me, couldn't see what it was but from the noise/profile probably a LCO 737 or similar, and the landing lights were flashing on and off at about two second intervals for all of the 30 seconds or so I saw it in the air.
Very odd! Any suggestions?
Incidentally, does anyone know the lamp spec (voltage, type etc)for your average landing light - VERY bright - are they xenon gas discharge or something - could use a set for my Subaru
Very odd! Any suggestions?
Incidentally, does anyone know the lamp spec (voltage, type etc)for your average landing light - VERY bright - are they xenon gas discharge or something - could use a set for my Subaru
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From: Paros, Greece
It's supposed to be a way to signal to an aerodrome that you are 'compelled to land' if, for example, you are unable to contact them to get clearance or have been refused permission, but have to land. In reality I wouldn't have thought it was used much, if at all by commercial traffic in the UK.
Perhaps the captains granny lives under the flightpath and he was showing off?
Perhaps the captains granny lives under the flightpath and he was showing off?
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From: The Twilight Zone near 30W
A number of corporates are fitted with this system and it's not uncommon in the US. Apparently a good way of scaring the birds ........
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From: Not a huge sand box but very nice winters anymore
Human is right on this account. It has everything to do with birds. If you were looking at the aircraft some are fitted so that the landing lights not only flash on and off but also on opposite sides to each other.
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From: Under the Mildenhall landing flightpath
Human factor/saudipc-9
Thanks for the replies. It's a bit odd that it was pitch black, either a problem with owls at EGSS, or the no2 pressed the wrong button I guess!
Thanks for the replies. It's a bit odd that it was pitch black, either a problem with owls at EGSS, or the no2 pressed the wrong button I guess!
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You mentioned that you thought it could have been a low-cost airline, perhaps it was a cost saving measure. By having the lights on for two seconds and then off for two seconds, they were only using half the power 
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From: Wet Coast
Not a signal, not for scaring birds, not cost-saving.
Strobe or alternate-flash landing light systems are for greater visibility, of the be-seen type. Several manufacturers, search google if interested.
Available as retrofit on all 737 models, although I don't remember seeing them on DC-9s/MadDogs. New-build airliners all have built in strobes these days .
Strobe or alternate-flash landing light systems are for greater visibility, of the be-seen type. Several manufacturers, search google if interested.
Available as retrofit on all 737 models, although I don't remember seeing them on DC-9s/MadDogs. New-build airliners all have built in strobes these days .
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PaperTiger
Interesting - the first I have seen...may well have been a Ryanair 737-800 then as they are probably among the newest stuff at EGSS.
fruitloop
Sounds ideal....hmmm, I wonder where I can get a set?!
Interesting - the first I have seen...may well have been a Ryanair 737-800 then as they are probably among the newest stuff at EGSS.
fruitloop
Sounds ideal....hmmm, I wonder where I can get a set?!
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It is predominantly a bird scaring device, and very effective it is to.
You'd be suprised at the amount of bird activity at night, which is not just restricted to the normal nocturnal variety, for a start, they're attracted by airport ground lighting, don't ask me why, perhaps it's 'cos it's something they don't have in their nests.
You'd be suprised at the amount of bird activity at night, which is not just restricted to the normal nocturnal variety, for a start, they're attracted by airport ground lighting, don't ask me why, perhaps it's 'cos it's something they don't have in their nests.
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It is predominantly a bird scaring device
No, it's predominantly a human visibility aid.
and very effective it is too.
Maybe. http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ws/nwrc/fi...ng_lights.html
No, it's predominantly a human visibility aid.
and very effective it is too.
Maybe. http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ws/nwrc/fi...ng_lights.html
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From: France
Flashing lights
Yep..all 3 things...
It increases light bulb life (not sure why 'cos I remember getting physics lesson at school explaining how th einitial switching on of a lightbulb places the maximum surge through it)...but these bulbs are designed so that they get switched off before reaching their peak temperature. (I think) All too scientific for me.
Also easier for humans to see.
Hope it doesn't scare the frogs !!
It increases light bulb life (not sure why 'cos I remember getting physics lesson at school explaining how th einitial switching on of a lightbulb places the maximum surge through it)...but these bulbs are designed so that they get switched off before reaching their peak temperature. (I think) All too scientific for me.
Also easier for humans to see.
Hope it doesn't scare the frogs !!
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From: Floatin' on th' Black Pig, Yarr!
Lots of mythology out there, chaps.
1) Bird Scaring...this came about after a European manufacturer, working with a now defunct airline, came out with a forward pointing twin strobe light based on the high intensity strobes used on the North Sea and MOD aircraft technology but using a single flash tube. As the aircraft aceelerates down the runway, or lands, the system increases the flash rate in order to convince bird that the aircraft is approaching faster than it really is. The trials results were somewhat mixed as some trials supported the theory and others didn't.
2) The light units are 115V with a step down to 28V for the sealed beam units, the power varies from aircraft to aircraft and can run from 100 watts for a turn off light up through the standard sizes of General Electric sealed beam units.
3) There are very few gas discharge lights in service on aircraft as the manufacturers are wary of such "unproven" technology.
4) The original reason for flashing landing lights was for recognition purposes on approach, as requested by the tower for visual identification. Whether this is commonly used I don't know.
1) Bird Scaring...this came about after a European manufacturer, working with a now defunct airline, came out with a forward pointing twin strobe light based on the high intensity strobes used on the North Sea and MOD aircraft technology but using a single flash tube. As the aircraft aceelerates down the runway, or lands, the system increases the flash rate in order to convince bird that the aircraft is approaching faster than it really is. The trials results were somewhat mixed as some trials supported the theory and others didn't.
2) The light units are 115V with a step down to 28V for the sealed beam units, the power varies from aircraft to aircraft and can run from 100 watts for a turn off light up through the standard sizes of General Electric sealed beam units.
3) There are very few gas discharge lights in service on aircraft as the manufacturers are wary of such "unproven" technology.
4) The original reason for flashing landing lights was for recognition purposes on approach, as requested by the tower for visual identification. Whether this is commonly used I don't know.