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Logging hours with different licenes

Old 6th Oct 2019, 22:54
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Logging hours with different licenes

Hello, so maybe a dumb question, who knows.
I am about to start the CPL/IR/ME in europe.

I have an FAA PPL, and an EASA PPL with separate logbooks for the two. Now, my question is: Does anyone transfer the hours from the one logbook to the other? Or is it best to just keep the two logbooks completley seperate with no real affiliaction to the other?
I would just like some clarification as this queston doesnt seem to be asked, i just want everything to be tidy and done correctly to a proffesional standard.
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Old 6th Oct 2019, 23:20
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If you have separate logbooks then won’t your total times be wrong in each one? Hours are hours, use one logbook or duplicate in both.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 12:58
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If you want to keep separate logbooks for written endorsements, etc, then transfer all the records to a spreadsheet or database so you can easily get the totals.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 13:13
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Why on earth put different licenses hours in different logbooks ?. EASA, FAA, Qatari, PPL, NPPL .. they are all aeroplane hours and all go in the same book. To me all that matters is whetehr thay atre P1, Put, day, night, IFR, multi etc. If I need to split them out for license revalidation I do that on a piece of paper.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 14:21
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Not really sure what to make of all this.

FAA and EASA logbooks are not the same. FAA hours use the decimal points system and EASA is all hours and minutes.

I was always under the impression that a flight done on an FAA license sould be in an FAA style logbook and Easa in a european style logbook to include the time of dep and arr.

obviosuly i use a spreadsheed to find total hours, and i would like to hear from somone who actually has dual FAA and EASA licenses like me to see what they do, and not just suggestions on what seems to be the logical thing to do.
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 14:26
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If you have two logbooks, then they should both have the same totals. That is to say - if you do a flight it should go in both logbooks.

The only reason for having two is that PIC is logged differently in the US. Basically they allow you to be PIC whilst receiving instruction post-pvt so you could log a flight as both DUAL and PIC. Under EASA it is one or the other.

You can get around this on most professional logbooks by using a spare column to log two types of PIC. If you only intend to get CPL/IR under EASA then you really don't need the FAA logbook - and vice versa. Ultimately a logbook is a record of your flying for (a) showing flight time for a certificate or licence (b) showing flight time for a job, (c) showing recency, or (d) personal gratification.
*So they all need to be in the same book*

Edit: it really doesn't matter if you log minutes or decimal
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Old 7th Oct 2019, 14:33
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Larger or “Pro” logbooks generally have a couple of empty columns that you can allocate to anything particular.
No need to keep two separate logbooks and I never recommended it.
There are differences in logging though so you could for instance have a column “FAA PIC” and a column “EASA PIC”.
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Old 8th Oct 2019, 14:32
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I started off life with an Australian licence. When I moved to the UK and got my UK JAA licence, I just kept using the same logbook. Now it's a Dutch EASA licence (thanks to the threat of Brexit) and I still have not separated the log books...
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Old 9th Oct 2019, 09:39
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In the long ago I was flying for a mob based in a country that had no ICAO accreditation to issue licences They did anyway but we only flew to places where they were "accredited". We all kept a separate log book for those hours to avoid questions later in our careers. To me a sensible solution. Obviously ICAO accredited licences can be logged in the same log book.
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