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Old 11th Jun 2019, 09:19
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False localiser situation

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General thoughts, notes and experiences of the above? Prone to certain airfields or weather conditions.RegardsPin
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.. which is why one uses something else to establish the fact of being on course prior to following the needle.

Years ago, I was doing some contract training work for SAA on the B732 and the sim presented a textbook false localiser for (if I recall correctly) Cape Town. It was easy to set the scene for the problem if crews were other than disciplined in their descent navigation - especially if the automatics were set for capture too early - confused a few chaps over the period - but only once on the basis of once bitten, twice shy.

Plenty of articles such as this one on the net - https://flightsafety.org/asw-article...alizer-signal/
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Mexico, ILS 05R gave me a false capture a few weeks ago. Since then, I leave it in LNAV until we’re established. Not much time though to get it all sorted!
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False courses exist on nearly all Localisers due to the design. Theyre normally around 35 degrees either side of the LLZ track. Same issue with Glide Path aswell (on a 9 degree profile normally). Alot easier to avoid these days with GNSS, however holding the same track whilst holding a really inappropriate heading should set off alarm bells.
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General thoughts, notes and experiences of the above? Prone to certain airfields or weather conditions.RegardsPin
It happens.
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Eckhard

MEX 05 - exactly right. A place that is tough enough with the turn to final from the north east in a 'heavy' given the density altitude and approach speeds in a B747-400!

It's difficult enough intercepting the correct LOC with the radius of turn, without having to deal with a false LOC capture - nightmare - made even worse by it being after a 10 hour flight at about 0200 on the body clock.
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