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inform ATC about TCAS/GPWS failure?

Old 27th Jul 2017, 10:31
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inform ATC about TCAS/GPWS failure?

is there any legal requirement about informing ATC in case TCAS or GPWS fails?
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 11:01
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No. Even if the gear remains down, not mandatory to report to ATC
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 11:24
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TCAS: Try MEL 34-46-01. Our Civil Aviation Regulations state the requirement to advise ATC of a failure in flight, and before departure.

GPWS: No requirement here.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 11:32
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Originally Posted by gearlever View Post
No. Even if the gear remains down, not mandatory to report to ATC
You sure about that TCAS is
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 12:18
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Depending on where in the world maybe don't. Informed ATC once and they insisted we descend out of RVSM! After much explaining, to no acceptance, it miraculously started working again so we remained at our level.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 14:33
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Inop TCAS is normally a 10 days MEL item. Most countries in Europe have no problem operating for 10 days with u/s TCAS except Germany which have a quite stupid rule of max 3 days (altough even their ATC guys are not aware of this apparently). They have no way to find it out either unless your company run at least a half-decent Operations Control who files your flight plans marking TCAS being inop (non-RVSM).
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 18:40
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It used to be france, germany and some other country (uk?) that allowed max 3 days with TCAS inop. ATC might not have a way to check it, but SAFA inspectors do and they will not only record a finding, they will ground the aircraft until a repair is done if it is over three days.
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Old 27th Jul 2017, 20:25
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It's 10 days in the UK as well given that the transponder is operational.
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